Anyone still think Ray Jay is our stadium?

[puc86]

2 minutes ago, SugeKnight said:

It was 47,000+ standing room only for a primetime game on ABC. Does that jog your memory?

No 

[puc86]

4 minutes ago, SugeKnight said:

My point is, even if you guys were 10-0 you would never have gotten Game Day because of your lack of an OCS. And please spare me the "would rather have Ray Jay over UCF's erector set." I personally remember the Citrus Bowl days and know for a fact that you'd take Spectrum in a heartbeat to get Game Day and have a true campus tailgating atmosphere.

But that flies in the face of reality signed Pitt, Miami, USC, Texas vs Oklahoma, Florida vs Georgia et al.

[Meeps]

What happened to Ereck Plancher was a tragedy. George O'Leary had an old school way of toughening up players with brutal workouts. Ereck had sickle trait, which obviously wasn't conducive to said workouts because the body can't get enough oxygen to tissues due to malformed red blood cells. George O'Leary didn't single Ereck out and make him do anything different than all the other kids he coached. The fact that you are using this kids death to make a point is beyond low class and crosses the line between rival banter and just being a straight a hole.

Regarding those peanuts you refer to; a jury, NOT UCF found that UCFAA was under UCF's direct control and thus considered a state agency. The law states that $200,000 is the max payout. UCF didn't concoct that law or find some loophole. So nice try trying to distort whatever you can fit your narrative because you literally have nothing to contribute to what this thread was about. If you want to blame someone, blame the jury who used the facts that were presented to them and came to a joint decision.

[puc86]

1 minute ago, SugeKnight said:

Red River shootout and the world's largest outdoor coctail party are neutral site games, so you really can't include them as fair examples.

Okay how about Pitt, Miami and USC?

[Ned A Starr RIP]

20 minutes ago, SugeKnight said:

It was 47,000+ standing room only for a primetime game on ABC. Does that jog your memory?

Announced, not actual...according to some UCF’ers I heard from!

[BrassBulls12]

8 minutes ago, Meeps said:

 

Regarding those peanuts you refer to; a jury, NOT UCF found that UCFAA was under UCF's direct control and thus considered a state agency. The law states that $200,000 is the max payout. UCF didn't concoct that law or find some loophole. So nice try trying to distort whatever you can fit your narrative because you literally have nothing to contribute to what this thread was about. If you want to blame someone, blame the jury who used the facts that were presented to them and came to a joint decision.

yep and they spent more in court cost fighting for it than they paid. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjcv4mytubeAhXCjVkKHQn4B0AQzPwBegQIARAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fsports%2Fucf-knights%2Fos-sp-ucf-ereck-plancher-david-whitley-0608-story.html&psig=AOvVaw2LDFIxMFVhZrjV2LKGWd5X&ust=1542921972740762. 

Some highlights from the article 

From that day forward UCF has fought the Planchers. Legally, the school’s appeals have often been on solid ground.

But there is doing what’s legal and doing what’s right. In the wake of the Darling family finally getting relief, you wish Enock and Giselle Plancher could have the same feeling.

“All they’ve done is delayed, delayed, delayed,” Steve Yerrid said of UCF.

A jury found UCF liable in Plancher’s death and awarded the family $10 million. Like Darling, he collapsed during a vomit-inducing workout.

Judge Wendy Berger wrote that when UCF appealed the verdict to the Fifth District Court of Appeal. Unlike FSU and Darling, the sides did not reach a pre-trial settlement.

Both players had sickle-cell trait, which makes people vulnerable during extreme exertion. The jury determined that the UCF staff didn’t react properly when Plancher started staggering and gasping his last breaths.

“It is difficult to comprehend how one human being can ignore another in obvious distress or prevent someone else from offering aid to one in distress, but, inexplicably, that is what happened here.”

Yerrid said the school didn’t pay the $200,000 claim until a few months ago. It is obviously determined to never pay another dime.

 

For one grieving family, there is finally some closure.

For another, there is no peace in sight.

 

what does it say about your program when FSU has the mora high ground? 

[Meeps]

2 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

yep and they spent more in court cost fighting for it than they paid. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjcv4mytubeAhXCjVkKHQn4B0AQzPwBegQIARAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.orlandosentinel.com%2Fsports%2Fucf-knights%2Fos-sp-ucf-ereck-plancher-david-whitley-0608-story.html&psig=AOvVaw2LDFIxMFVhZrjV2LKGWd5X&ust=1542921972740762. 

Some highlights from the article 

From that day forward UCF has fought the Planchers. Legally, the school’s appeals have often been on solid ground.

But there is doing what’s legal and doing what’s right. In the wake of the Darling family finally getting relief, you wish Enock and Giselle Plancher could have the same feeling.

“All they’ve done is delayed, delayed, delayed,” Steve Yerrid said of UCF.

A jury found UCF liable in Plancher’s death and awarded the family $10 million. Like Darling, he collapsed during a vomit-inducing workout.

Judge Wendy Berger wrote that when UCF appealed the verdict to the Fifth District Court of Appeal. Unlike FSU and Darling, the sides did not reach a pre-trial settlement.

Both players had sickle-cell trait, which makes people vulnerable during extreme exertion. The jury determined that the UCF staff didn’t react properly when Plancher started staggering and gasping his last breaths.

“It is difficult to comprehend how one human being can ignore another in obvious distress or prevent someone else from offering aid to one in distress, but, inexplicably, that is what happened here.”

Yerrid said the school didn’t pay the $200,000 claim until a few months ago. It is obviously determined to never pay another dime.

 

For one grieving family, there is finally some closure.

For another, there is no peace in sight.

 

what does it say about your program when FSU has the mora high ground? 

It doesn't say anything because the death of a player doesn't magically come back from the dead based a certain dollar figure or when it gets paid. That's decided by the court system and the law, not UCF. Nice try though.

[BrassBulls12]

12 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

But there is doing what’s legal and doing what’s right. In the wake of the Darling family finally getting relief, you wish Enock and Giselle Plancher could have the same feeling.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Meeps said:

It doesn't say anything because the death of a player doesn't magically come back from the dead based a certain dollar figure or when it gets paid. That's decided by the court system and the law, not UCF. Nice try though.

It really all comes down to the first quote here. Nice try though

 

Also, UCF hired GOL after he was fired for lying on his resume 

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/sports/notre-dame-coach-resigns-after-5-days-and-a-few-lies.html

It just doesn't look like doing whats right is very high on the priority list over there. 

Edited November 21, 2018 by BrassBulls12

[Dave_Glaser]

50 minutes ago, SugeKnight said:

It was 47,000+ standing room only for a primetime game on ABC. Does that jog your memory?

You're in the middle of the golden age of UCF football and for some reason you're here? Says a lot about you. If the tables were turned, I wouldn't even give UCF a second thought.

[Meeps]

9 minutes ago, BrassBulls12 said:

 

It really all comes down to the first quote here. Nice try though

FSU makes just a tad more per year being in the ACC to have "whatever" funds to throw around than UCF does in the AAC. That opens the door to being able to compensate during a tragedy despite what they are legally responsible for; it doesn't make them more "morally" correct. If you want to try and say that the $350k they spent on the National Champion bonus' should have gone to the Planchers, last I checked, $10 million > $350k or even the $4.2 million. But I wouldn't expect a bull fan to know what those numbers mean so I apologize in advance. 

Edited November 21, 2018 by Meeps