TromBull12 Posted April 25, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 953 Reputation: 607 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/28/2014 Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, dausfbulls11 said: Kean reminds me of Grothe, but with a stronger arm, kid has some grit....and no im not comparing his achievements to Grothe, just saying i see some fight in this kid So he could possibly remind you of Q.F.'s without the accomplishments? Who has more grit, Grothe or Flowers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apis Bull Posted April 25, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,586 Content Count: 23,185 Reputation: 2,332 Days Won: 65 Joined: 09/05/2002 Share Posted April 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, TromBull12 said: So he could possibly remind you of Q.F.'s without the accomplishments? Who has more grit, Grothe or Flowers??? Or who likes grits more? That could be important...or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dausfbulls11 Posted April 25, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 320 Content Count: 3,030 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/15/2005 Share Posted April 25, 2016 True..:.:dont get me wrong QF is def the man....just saying dont under estimate BK being able to step in and lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSF Posted April 25, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 9 Content Count: 1,117 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/29/2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 46 minutes ago, TromBull12 said: So he could possibly remind you of Q.F.'s without the accomplishments? Who has more grit, Grothe or Flowers??? I think he is comparing Kean to Grothe because they both can run, but obviously neither of them have the type of running talent that QF has. Also, Grothe seemed like more of a gun slinger than Flowers, which isn't necessarily to say its better or worse, but Flowers takes a lot less risks with throwing the ball down field. He doesn't typically throw it unless his guy is wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted April 26, 2016 1 hour ago, NavyUSFGuy said: I think he is comparing Kean to Grothe because they both can run, but obviously neither of them have the type of running talent that QF has. Also, Grothe seemed like more of a gun slinger than Flowers, which isn't necessarily to say its better or worse, but Flowers takes a lot less risks with throwing the ball down field. He doesn't typically throw it unless his guy is wide open. Typically, I agree, but as he's gained more confidence throwing, we've seen him take more crossing routes - in traffic and over the LBs heads. I think it's just knowing his limits--he's a smart ball player (sometimes overlooked), which is a big reason why his TO margin is low. He can nearly always find a short gain with his legs, and reload for the next down if things aren't working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMW Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 39 Content Count: 2,112 Reputation: 915 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted April 26, 2016 1 hour ago, TromBull12 said: So he could possibly remind you of Q.F.'s without the accomplishments? Who has more grit, Grothe or Flowers??? Now that is an interesting comparison. Matt was a great QB who was a much better passer but was forced to take too many chances. Plus D coordinators knew he was "the straw the stirred the drink". If they could stop him they could stop our offense. Flowers makes awesome decisions which I do not believe is an accident. I've seen some real smarts in his play and I think he gives D coordinators fits. I'm not sure what game I saw him late in the season in the open field with an easy 5 or 10 scamper for the taking. Instead of taking the easy pick up he tossed it to Mac in the flat who scored or nearly scored from the 20. It was a play that showed such understanding of the game. (Also, you let your RB deliver the hit instead of him getting pounded.) The QB position is so much more than passing. Grothe was an awesome QB that reminded me of Flutie. Both great in their own ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Rock Da Bull Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 924 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/04/2010 Share Posted April 26, 2016 42 minutes ago, mark_my_words said: Now that is an interesting comparison. Matt was a great QB who was a much better passer but was forced to take too many chances. Plus D coordinators knew he was "the straw the stirred the drink". If they could stop him they could stop our offense. Flowers makes awesome decisions which I do not believe is an accident. I've seen some real smarts in his play and I think he gives D coordinators fits. I'm not sure what game I saw him late in the season in the open field with an easy 5 or 10 scamper for the taking. Instead of taking the easy pick up he tossed it to Mac in the flat who scored or nearly scored from the 20. It was a play that showed such understanding of the game. (Also, you let your RB deliver the hit instead of him getting pounded.) The QB position is so much more than passing. Grothe was an awesome QB that reminded me of Flutie. Both great in their own ways. that was against Temple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANJAY Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 300 Content Count: 7,993 Reputation: 968 Days Won: 21 Joined: 10/31/2005 Share Posted April 26, 2016 15 hours ago, Apis Bull said: Or who likes grits more? That could be important...or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fold FB Invest in BB Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 76 Content Count: 6,712 Reputation: 1,131 Days Won: 17 Joined: 09/07/2009 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Isn't grit one of those cliche terms used for white dudes that play ball? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted April 26, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted April 26, 2016 14 hours ago, mark_my_words said: Now that is an interesting comparison. Matt was a great QB who was a much better passer but was forced to take too many chances. Plus D coordinators knew he was "the straw the stirred the drink". If they could stop him they could stop our offense. Flowers makes awesome decisions which I do not believe is an accident. I've seen some real smarts in his play and I think he gives D coordinators fits. I'm not sure what game I saw him late in the season in the open field with an easy 5 or 10 scamper for the taking. Instead of taking the easy pick up he tossed it to Mac in the flat who scored or nearly scored from the 20. It was a play that showed such understanding of the game. (Also, you let your RB deliver the hit instead of him getting pounded.) The QB position is so much more than passing. Grothe was an awesome QB that reminded me of Flutie. Both great in their own ways. I think the biggest difference is that Flowers has Mack to take the pressure off him. On a talent level, Ford and Taylor were better backs than Mack, but the fact is that he works harder and is much more disciplined than they were. Ford always had off the field issues and Taylor seemed to have injury concerns all the time (maybe I'm wrong). Mack is arguably the best RB in USF history. Andre Hall is still very much in that conversation because he had a dominant year in a BCS conference, but by the time next season is over Mack will have completely eclipsed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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