If Taggart wins BIG next year, does he stay?

[Bull Martin]

We don't have to pay him that this year, but I could see him getting a good jump to maybe $1.7-2M this year and a big assistant pool bump.  Then he needs to win the division next year and we'll see what happens.

Edited December 2, 2015 by Bull Martin

[BULLZ]

We don't have to pay him that this year, but I could see him getting a good jump to maybe $1.7-2M this year and a big assistant pool bump.  Then he needs to win the division next year and we'll see what happens.

Pay him now, why wait until hes a hot commodity and you have to pay something potentially out of your price range because you gotta compete with the market? You pay him 3 Million this year, a P5 school would have to pay him about 4.5 Million Plus to truly make a huge difference in pay. That 4.5 Million threshold could eliminate a lot of the mid tier schools from poaching him and only keep us susceptible to storied programs that pay 5 Million plus. 

The way I see it, his buddy Jim Harbaugh is set to make 7 Million this year, and that is with years and years of proven success. As his protege I dont think Tags expects anything remotely close to that ball park because he hasnt proved himself to be that valuable yet. So 3 million would be a doable number for USF and IMO more than fair in Taggarts eyes.

[USFBulls12]

Put it this way, if we are so good over the next few years because Taggart is the Messiah and we go undefeated next year after starting ranked around #30, win the AAC Championship, play in a New Years Bowl ranked as #7 and beat a top ranked opponent, and then Taggart decides to stay... we begin the 2017 ranked in the Top 12. We then continue to win, on our way to another undefeated season, beating teams by an average of 20-25 points and then win another AAC Championship, we are now ranked #2 in the country behind an undefeated SEC team. We play for a national championship under Taggart. Win or lose, why does Taggart leave at that time if he now has access to the top 5 star recruits nationally. You think he would turn down that opportunity to go coach at a school that hasn't played in a national championship in decades or ever for  a little more money amd start his system over again...? USF now gets invited to a P5 conference and Taggart has everything he's ever dreamed of right here at his home. We have such untapped potential that with his coaching/recruiting and a little luck to go undefeated through about 20 games, we have everything right here at USF to unlock access to a P5, millions and millions of dollars, and potential national championships? At that point, when we are ranked #2 and playing for the championship, who has it better than we do? Nooooooobody.

Edited December 2, 2015 by USFBulls12
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[BULLZ]

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SCHOOL	CONF	HEAD COACH	SCHOOL PAY	OTHER PAY	TOTAL PAY	MAX BONUS	BONUSES PAID (2014-15)	STAFF PAY TOTAL
Alabama	SEC	Nick Saban	$6,932,395	$155,086	$7,087,481	$700,000	$425,000	--
Michigan	Big Ten	Jim Harbaugh	$7,004,000	--	$7,004,000	$1,175,000	--	--
Ohio State	Big Ten	Urban Meyer	$5,860,000	$0	$5,860,000	$775,000	$400,000	--
Oklahoma	Big 12	Bob Stoops	$5,400,000	$0	$5,400,000	$834,000	$75,000	--
Florida State	ACC	Jimbo Fisher	$5,150,000	$0	$5,150,000	$1,475,000	$500,000	--
Texas	Big 12	Charlie Strong	$5,100,000	$270	$5,100,270	$1,003,000	$25,000	--
Texas A&M	SEC	Kevin Sumlin	$5,000,000	$0	$5,000,000	$1,350,000	$50,000	--
Penn State	Big Ten	James Franklin	$4,400,000	--	$4,400,000	$1,000,000	$200,000	--
LSU	SEC	Les Miles	$4,300,000	$88,721	$4,388,721	$700,000	$100,000	--
Mississippi	SEC	Hugh Freeze	$4,300,000	$10,000	$4,310,000	$975,000	$125,000	--
Baylor	Big 12	Art Briles	$4,236,073	$2,500	$4,238,573	--	--	--
Georgia	SEC	Mark Richt	$4,000,000	$124,000	$4,124,000	$1,800,000	$75,000	--
Auburn	SEC	Gus Malzahn	$4,100,000	$4,500	$4,104,500	$1,400,000	$125,000	--
Iowa	Big Ten	Kirk Ferentz	$4,075,000	$0	$4,075,000	$2,375,000	$25,000	--
South Carolina	SEC	Steve Spurrier	$4,000,000	$28,600	$4,028,600	$1,700,000	$200,000	--
Mississippi State	SEC	Dan Mullen	$4,000,000	$0	$4,000,000	$900,000	$390,000	--
Florida	SEC	Jim McElwain	$3,983,359	--	$3,983,359	$450,000	--	--
Arkansas	SEC	Bret Bielema	$3,954,166	$6,500	$3,960,666	$1,000,000	$100,000	--
Texas Christian	Big 12	Gary Patterson	$3,940,026	--	$3,940,026	--	--	--
Missouri	SEC	Gary Pinkel	$3,768,889	$0	$3,768,889	$725,000	$900,000	--
Michigan State	Big Ten	Mark Dantonio	$3,671,520	$0	$3,671,520	$650,000	$250,000	--
Oklahoma State	Big 12	Mike Gundy	$3,650,000	--	$3,650,000	$550,000	$62,500	--
Tennessee	SEC	Butch Jones	$3,610,000	$23,000	$3,633,000	$1,000,000	$300,000	--
Washington	Pac-12	Chris Petersen	$3,400,000	$2,940	$3,402,940	$1,175,000	$200,000	--
UCLA	Pac-12	Jim Mora	$3,350,000	$0	$3,350,000	$930,000	$145,000	--
Clemson	ACC	Dabo Swinney	$3,300,000	$5,200	$3,305,200	$1,125,000	$50,000	--
Kentucky	SEC	Mark Stoops	$3,250,000	$13,600	$3,263,600	$2,775,000	$125,000	--
Arizona	Pac-12	Rich Rodriguez	$2,878,844	$360,000	$3,238,844	$2,025,000	$650,000	--
Virginia	ACC	Mike London	$3,196,724	$1,676	$3,198,400	$715,000	$0	--
Oregon	Pac-12	Mark Helfrich	$3,150,000	--	$3,150,000	$1,635,000	$535,000	--
Texas Tech	Big 12	Kliff Kingsbury	$3,108,000	$39,500	$3,147,500	$1,500,000	$70,000	--
Louisville	ACC	Bobby Petrino	$3,000,000	$3,500	$3,003,500	$1,341,667	$782,667	--
Arizona State	Pac-12	Todd Graham	$3,000,000	$2,960	$3,002,960	$3,740,000	$627,000	--
Kansas State	Big 12	Bill Snyder	$3,000,000	$0	$3,000,000	$580,000	$150,000

 

 

 

Here are the top 34 salaries in CFB for 2015. If we paid him 3 Million, There are only about 15 SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY that would pay him 4 Million plus. We would effectively lock him up from a money standpoint if 90% of the schools came calling.

 

Edited December 2, 2015 by BULLZ

[Thebullsfan]

Put it this way, if we are so good over the next few years because Taggart is the Messiah and we go undefeated next year after starting ranked around #30, win the AAC Championship, play in a New Years Bowl ranked as #7 and beat a top ranked opponent, and then Taggart decides to stay... we begin the 2017 ranked in the Top 12. We then continue to win, on our way to another undefeated season, beating teams by an average of 20-25 points and then win another AAC Championship, we are now ranked #2 in the country behind an undefeated SEC team. We play for a national championship under Taggart. Win or lose, why does Taggart leave at that time if he now has access to the top 5 star recruits nationally. You think he would turn down that opportunity to go coach at a school that hasn't played in a national championship in decades or ever for  a little more money amd start his system over again...? USF now gets invited to a P5 conference and Taggart has everything he's ever dreamed of right here at his home. We have such untapped potential that with his coaching/recruiting and a little luck to go undefeated through about 20 games, we have everything right here at USF to unlock access to a P5, millions and millions of dollars, and potential national championships? At that point, when we are ranked #2 and playing for the championship, who has it better than we do? Nooooooobody.

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[usfgrad84]

it is hard to say what really motivates him unless you truly know him.  If it comes to that situation and we can pony up the way Houston is and Memphis was going to do with Fuente, is he motivated by a million more a year for maybe a couple of years or is being home, around his family, with possibly a job he can keep for the rest of his life and earn a paycheck that allows him to live more than comfortably enough for him.

Depends on what drives him.  If it really just about earning the biggest paycheck then he would bolt.  If does well here he could have job security for the rest of his coaching career and make not quite the biggest paycheck, but a pretty **** good one.  Just depends on what is thrown at him and who comes calling.  

[GaUSFBull]

Depends on what drives him.  If it really just about earning the biggest paycheck then he would bolt.  If does well here he could have job security for the rest of his coaching career and make not quite the biggest paycheck, but a pretty **** good one.  Just depends on what is thrown at him and who comes calling.  

Bingo.  I was going to post pretty much the same thing.  

[Bulls On Parade]

If a top program like Bama,Texas, FSU were to call no way he is gone but middle and low p5 programs like Wake or Kansas if we can offer pretty close to same money I think he stays.

I think usf would be a easier path than turning around a Kentucky or such.

The key is usf offering money that matches the mid p5 programs...things usf has is great location, no income taxes, recruits close to home and family in area. 

[CousinRicky]

Reading this is just exploding my minuscule brain. He's beaten 3 or 4 teams that finished over .500 and you guys want to give him $3 million?  Wow.  Wish you guys were my bosses and I had a couple of good weeks during three years and you locked me up for 5 years at $3 million.  I guess I'm just old.  But until we do this for more that 8 weeks, I'd rather roll the dice. Yes, I know we are trending upward but still think the middle of next year is fine to decide to extend him.  And for a lot less than the numbers you guys are talking about.  

[206BULL]

Reading this is just exploding my minuscule brain. He's beaten 3 or 4 teams that finished over .500 and you guys want to give him $3 million?  Wow.  Wish you guys were my bosses and I had a couple of good weeks during three years and you locked me up for 5 years at $3 million.  I guess I'm just old.  But until we do this for more that 8 weeks, I'd rather roll the dice. Yes, I know we are trending upward but still think the middle of next year is fine to decide to extend him.  And for a lot less than the numbers you guys are talking about.  

To in perspective on why many think he deserves a big raise. Winless UCF just paid a first time HC $600,000 more then Taggart is currently making.