ToroDeFuego Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 70 Content Count: 611 Reputation: 275 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/27/2016 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Happened to see this today about facilities: http://www.newschief.com/sports/20180311/zier-upgrading-football-facilities-must-for-usf Charlie Strong thinks that UT is not leaving the Big 12 but that we need to upgrade facilities to be considered: Quote “Somebody has to step up,” Strong said. “The money’s there, and I understand how important the medical school is, but we need to get this done. The future of our program depends on it.” The thing that surprised me is out donations. We're at 2,942,660 while UCF has $6,918,969. I thought we would at least be equal. And then when you look at our revenue we're at the bottom level of the schools we're competing with for a P5 spot: http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/ Sure hope Harlan gets what he's asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Bullnard_Shaw Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 55 Content Count: 6,740 Reputation: 1,743 Days Won: 17 Joined: 11/04/2012 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Sure, who wants a new med school anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 488 Content Count: 12,455 Reputation: 2,840 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm curious to see how this all washes out. With the merging of campuses, USF Tampa and pre-eminence, St. Pete and losing accreditation, etc. For sure it will not be status quo... maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted March 13, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,677 Reputation: 5,813 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted March 13, 2018 How do you take CCS's comment about sure we need a medical facility? Is he equating football with our medical school? Is he saying we need to make a choice between the two? What does he mean by the money is there? If the Board of Trustees has to chose between a med school and football I'm pretty sure that med school wins. And where is this money? If we had the money the shovels would be in the ground. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
206BULL Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 66 Content Count: 4,777 Reputation: 899 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/30/2009 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I didn't take it as a "we don't need a medical school" or a this or that statement. I think he is starting to see the fundraising issues when it comes to USF Athletics first hand and when you look at our alumni pool as well as some of our bigger donors the money is definitely there we just need to tap into it, Les and Pam Muma can only foot so much of the bill. Tapping into that fundraising and getting it earmarked for athletics has always been the million dollar issue at USF and while it seems to be on an upward trajectory it's still not what it should be. A lot of that IMO goes back to when the university was started and the reluctance to add athletics at its inception and football until the 90s; there just isn't that bond with a lot of the older alumni and the athletic department. This issue also obviously lends itself a hand in attendance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Interesting comment by CCS. My take is that he is not saying it is an either/or issue (he is not a dumb man). But he is saying football facilities need to be all in “like” the medical school. Of course how that is done is the issue. More importantly, because CCS IS THE ONE SPEAKING OUT on facilities it makes me wonder if he is dissatisfied with Sr. Level admin (Harlan) not hustling more for $....just my two cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said: Interesting comment by CCS. My take is that he is not saying it is an either/or issue (he is not a dumb man). But he is saying football facilities need to be all in “like” the medical school. Of course how that is done is the issue. More importantly, because CCS IS THE ONE SPEAKING OUT on facilities it makes me wonder if he is dissatisfied with Sr. Level admin (Harlan) not hustling more for $....just my two cents... Either that or he is the figure head and the "personality" of the football program so he is the one making the "pitch" so to speak. I definitely think he is pointing the finger at the lack of support for the program from the big donors and possibly the Development folks at USF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, chapelbull said: Either that or he is the figure head and the "personality" of the football program so he is the one making the "pitch" so to speak. I definitely think he is pointing the finger at the lack of support for the program from the big donors and possibly the Development folks at USF Totally agree with you. Usually a HC will not get into the weeds like this when it is about financial support or fundraising (unless they are speaking at a “rah rah” event). This is usually the responsibility of others in the dept. to shake the tree. I wonder what Markus Harlan thinks about CCS statement? Or Judy for that matter. Edited March 13, 2018 by NewEnglandBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorbull325 Posted March 13, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 119 Content Count: 6,518 Reputation: 2,692 Days Won: 28 Joined: 09/02/2014 Share Posted March 13, 2018 No problem with what CCS said. Football brings in a lot of revenue. Revenue that can help pay 4 a lot of other stuff including help upgrade the medical school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnfan1 Posted March 14, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 88 Content Count: 3,462 Reputation: 566 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/14/2010 Share Posted March 14, 2018 USF AD: school full speed ahead on new football facility http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-sp-usf-indoor-football-facility-update-20180313-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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