FazaUSF Posted August 15, 2013 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 94 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 11 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted August 15, 2013 All true and hilariously optimistic to think we will win either. Of course as a hardcore Bulls fan I hope/expect to win every game. Realistically, Skip left the cupboard dry. A 6-6 season like Charlie Strong's first would be a big improvement over last year, and that's about the most we can really expect considering the shambles CWT is picking up. We will not beat MSU, we will not beat Miami, tho I will be at both games yelling my head off for the green and gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Good post Bill. My expectations aren't high enough to expect wins over either MSU or Miami, but I will be cheering no less than my usual 110%. I agree with Faza that 6-6, or even 7-5 is the likely best outcome. Hope I'm wrong though and we go undefeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsFanInTX Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 222 Content Count: 4,210 Reputation: 647 Days Won: 8 Joined: 08/17/2006 Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) some might argue that Ball St should have been a "filler win" Then some would be wrong ... MAC teams aren't filler wins to programs like ours. They should be. Ball St has no business beating USF. USF had never lost to a non bus team in BE era prior to Ball St. Remember routing NIU in a bowl. The talent discrepancy was huge. Edited August 15, 2013 by BullsFanInTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Are We Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 217 Content Count: 2,495 Reputation: 192 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2013 some might argue that Ball St should have been a "filler win" Then some would be wrong ... MAC teams aren't filler wins to programs like ours. Bah, that's a team we stomped by 3 TD's the year prior. We had no business losing that game with a senior laden team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 723 Content Count: 12,293 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/01/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2013 If you think that USF should not destroy Ball St then the Holtz era did MASSIVE damage to this program. I get the whole we are a mid-major and not in the ACC, SEC, or where ever but we should beat Ball St. I feel like people believe we are back in 2002 now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,650 Reputation: 10,881 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted August 15, 2013 If you think that USF should not destroy Ball St then the Holtz era did MASSIVE damage to this program. I get the whole we are a mid-major and not in the ACC, SEC, or where ever but we should beat Ball St. I feel like people believe we are back in 2002 now. To me , "filler wins" are lower divisions and Sun Belt and lower in the FBS ... 99.9% chance of winning. I didn't say we shouldn't have beaten Ball State but a program that's never finished higher than 3rd in a so-so conference shouldn't be considering programs like Ball State a "filler win" .... Just shows the delusional aspect of some of our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhambuc Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 165 Content Count: 2,233 Reputation: 224 Days Won: 6 Joined: 08/18/2011 Share Posted August 15, 2013 And to think the two games in SEPT will not be against the highest ranked team we have on the schedule this year( if the season plays out as the Experts predict). We get Ville for Homecoming, they are ranked in the TOP 10 PRESEASON.. Could be a special season if we were to run the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Are We Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 217 Content Count: 2,495 Reputation: 192 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/23/2003 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Could be a special season if we were to run the table. Holy crap did you just type that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,687 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted August 15, 2013 And to think the two games in SEPT will not be against the highest ranked team we have on the schedule this year( if the season plays out as the Experts predict). We get Ville for Homecoming, they are ranked in the TOP 10 PRESEASON.. Could be a special season if we were to run the table. Top ten? Def overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hem Posted August 15, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted August 15, 2013 If you think that USF should not destroy Ball St then the Holtz era did MASSIVE damage to this program. I get the whole we are a mid-major and not in the ACC, SEC, or where ever but we should beat Ball St. I feel like people believe we are back in 2002 now. To me , "filler wins" are lower divisions and Sun Belt and lower in the FBS ... 99.9% chance of winning. I didn't say we shouldn't have beaten Ball State but a program that's never finished higher than 3rd in a so-so conference shouldn't be considering programs like Ball State a "filler win" .... Just shows the delusional aspect of some of our fans. That's such a weak argument considering the Big East was made up of schools who always beat one another. There was no Texas or FSU in our conference who always dominated while others fought over scraps. This was a league that would have 2 and 3 co-champs some years. The Big East had a better bowl record than a majority of the other BCS conferences, I wouldn't call that so-so. Just because the media loved to rip on the BE, doesn't make it factual or true. How about considering that we consistently won 7 to 9 games per season in the Big East until the last 2 years? And as fans, having a program that beats the teams that we beat on our schedules (prior to being holtzecuted), it would be reasonable to believe we should have considered Ball State a filler win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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