i quit

[Who'sYourData?]

****, now I won't be able to contribute to another OCS, expansion/ucf, or fashion thread. i'll see myself out. peace

Don't listen to Trip, he's a jaded Buc fan.  You are welcome to post anytime, as long as you are sober.  ;D

[Grateful Dad]

Years of watching and hearing fans swear they will never have anything to do with the team anymore because we lost when the fan thinks we should have won makes me wonder about the nature of "fandom" or affiliation.  I think one variable is the nature of their attachment to the team.  Maturity plays a role ("I'm taking my ball and going home!") but I am not sure I am qualified to speak to that topic 

There is a difference, in my opinion, between being a Bull and being a Bull's fan.  A Bull has a tangible and close (emotionally) attachment to the university.  For example, one who has attended USF or had an immediate family member attend the university is a Bull.  One who has a more distal relationship, or none at all but just chose USF as a team that they are going to root for is a Bull's fan.  In the former case, one would expect, in most cases, a closer and more robust emotional tie to the university.  All are welcome and no one is "better" than another, but it might be one way to explain why some people give up on the team and others don't.  Certainly, there are many other variables.

Then there are the other fans.  You know the type.  The Bubbas, who exhibits no evidence of even completing high school, much less college, who buy a Gator (or other team's) jersey and all of a sudden is a "Gator".  They pepper their conversation with "We" beat so and so, "We" are playing great, "We" should make the national championship, etc.  They scorn fans from other schools, as if they had any legitimate identity with their chosen team.  They, in essence, have stolen their identity from those who actually contribute to the university in some fashion, either playing for, donating to, attending the games, or truly have a genuine emotional attachment.  These are fans whose sworn allegiance shrivels and is quickly forgotten when their chosen team disappoints.

Admittedly, these are examples from the ends of the spectrum.  However, there are many fans who reside in the middle ground.  I guess it is a measure of intention.  If a "fan's" intention is to procure some kind of superior social postion from the efforts of a team that doesn't even know that this fan exists, then I can understand the fecklessness.  But if there is truly a close emotional tie to the team and the overriding intention is for the good of the team and not the social standing of the fan, then I expect that fan to have a more enduring, forgiving relationship with the team.

We all get a dagger in the heart when our team loses, but I am led to believe that how one reacts tells us quite a bit about the fan.  If the relationship is honestly close enough, then it is there long term.  Whatever the nature of fan, believing in the Bulls is a life time relationship, not a one night stand.

[Triple B]

So, being realistic sounds like being kicked in the ***? Have fun in an empty stadium just because we lost 2 games. i'm over it.

****, now I won't be able to contribute to another OCS, expansion/ucf, or fashion thread. i'll see myself out. peace

You can always use a proxy ...

[SANJAY]

Did we quit when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

No but when the "Germans" bombed Pearl Harbor,  with their Japanese planes, we didn't have a General named BJ either.

I knew someone wouldn't get it.

[Bull-by-Marriage]

Years of watching and hearing fans swear they will never have anything to do with the team anymore because we lost when the fan thinks we should have won makes me wonder about the nature of "fandom" or affiliation.  I think one variable is the nature of their attachment to the team.  Maturity plays a role ("I'm taking my ball and going home!") but I am not sure I am qualified to speak to that topic 

There is a difference, in my opinion, between being a Bull and being a Bull's fan.  A Bull has a tangible and close (emotionally) attachment to the university.  For example, one who has attended USF or had an immediate family member attend the university is a Bull.  One who has a more distal relationship, or none at all but just chose USF as a team that they are going to root for is a Bull's fan.  In the former case, one would expect, in most cases, a closer and more robust emotional tie to the university.  All are welcome and no one is "better" than another, but it might be one way to explain why some people give up on the team and others don't.  Certainly, there are many other variables.

Then there are the other fans.  You know the type.  The Bubbas, who exhibits no evidence of even completing high school, much less college, who buy a Gator (or other team's) jersey and all of a sudden is a "Gator".  They pepper their conversation with "We" beat so and so, "We" are playing great, "We" should make the national championship, etc.  They scorn fans from other schools, as if they had any legitimate identity with their chosen team.  They, in essence, have stolen their identity from those who actually contribute to the university in some fashion, either playing for, donating to, attending the games, or truly have a genuine emotional attachment.  These are fans whose sworn allegiance shrivels and is quickly forgotten when their chosen team disappoints.

Admittedly, these are examples from the ends of the spectrum.  However, there are many fans who reside in the middle ground.  I guess it is a measure of intention.  If a "fan's" intention is to procure some kind of superior social postion from the efforts of a team that doesn't even know that this fan exists, then I can understand the fecklessness.  But if there is truly a close emotional tie to the team and the overriding intention is for the good of the team and not the social standing of the fan, then I expect that fan to have a more enduring, forgiving relationship with the team.

We all get a dagger in the heart when our team loses, but I am led to believe that how one reacts tells us quite a bit about the fan.  If the relationship is honestly close enough, then it is there long term.  Whatever the nature of fan, believing in the Bulls is a life time relationship, not a one night stand.

Great post. Being as I fall into the "immediate family" category. I won't ever quit or give up on the Bulls, but this season with all of the BS of realignment and then our failure to win a BE game (at this point) is starting to make me apathetic for the rest of the season. I kind of want this season to just end.

[MikeG]

Years of watching and hearing fans swear they will never have anything to do with the team anymore because we lost when the fan thinks we should have won makes me wonder about the nature of "fandom" or affiliation.  I think one variable is the nature of their attachment to the team.  Maturity plays a role ("I'm taking my ball and going home!") but I am not sure I am qualified to speak to that topic 

There is a difference, in my opinion, between being a Bull and being a Bull's fan.  A Bull has a tangible and close (emotionally) attachment to the university.  For example, one who has attended USF or had an immediate family member attend the university is a Bull.  One who has a more distal relationship, or none at all but just chose USF as a team that they are going to root for is a Bull's fan.  In the former case, one would expect, in most cases, a closer and more robust emotional tie to the university.  All are welcome and no one is "better" than another, but it might be one way to explain why some people give up on the team and others don't.  Certainly, there are many other variables.

Then there are the other fans.  You know the type.  The Bubbas, who exhibits no evidence of even completing high school, much less college, who buy a Gator (or other team's) jersey and all of a sudden is a "Gator".  They pepper their conversation with "We" beat so and so, "We" are playing great, "We" should make the national championship, etc.  They scorn fans from other schools, as if they had any legitimate identity with their chosen team.  They, in essence, have stolen their identity from those who actually contribute to the university in some fashion, either playing for, donating to, attending the games, or truly have a genuine emotional attachment.  These are fans whose sworn allegiance shrivels and is quickly forgotten when their chosen team disappoints.

Admittedly, these are examples from the ends of the spectrum.  However, there are many fans who reside in the middle ground.  I guess it is a measure of intention.  If a "fan's" intention is to procure some kind of superior social postion from the efforts of a team that doesn't even know that this fan exists, then I can understand the fecklessness.  But if there is truly a close emotional tie to the team and the overriding intention is for the good of the team and not the social standing of the fan, then I expect that fan to have a more enduring, forgiving relationship with the team.

We all get a dagger in the heart when our team loses, but I am led to believe that how one reacts tells us quite a bit about the fan.  If the relationship is honestly close enough, then it is there long term.  Whatever the nature of fan, believing in the Bulls is a life time relationship, not a one night stand.

words

[mikebeau]

U Sad

[BDYZR]

fecklessness -

Lacking purpose or vitality; feeble or ineffective. 2. Careless and irresponsible. [ Scots feck, effect (alteration of effect) + -less.] feck less·ly adv. feck less·ness n. ...

Except for lacking purpose, you just described Saturday.

[Rizman]

Did we quit when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

Great movie, well said.

[Jihme]

Y U NO CARE??!!