Updated NET Rankings

[BullyPulpit]

4 hours ago, flsportsfan83 said:

Up to 74 in NET

 

Loyola-Chicago and UMass surging have really helped our cause in that regard. LC is 15-3 over its last 18 games and 9-1 over its last 10. While UMass has won 4 out of its last 5. 

[KB]

Does NET rankings run through the conference tournaments as well?

[Triple B]

2 hours ago, KB said:

Does NET rankings run through the conference tournaments as well?

Yes.

[Rocky Style]

2 hours ago, KB said:

Does NET rankings run through the conference tournaments as well?

[GoBulls84]

You know if you sort by conference name, we're actually 4th in the nation. I feel like that's something the hallowed Committee should take into account

[Bull Matrix]

1 hour ago, GoBulls84 said:

You know if you sort by conference name, we're actually 4th in the nation. I feel like that's something the hallowed Committee should take into account

AAC should be at 3 bid league imo. USF, FAU, and Memphis should be good enough to get in.

[Gat-Rat Bull]

23 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

AAC should be at 3 bid league imo. USF, FAU, and Memphis should be good enough to get in.

love how you think.

[bcgruber]

Up to #73 Think if we get to the Championship Game we will be in the 60's and in for sure

[USF_Bullsharks]

Looking at the NET there are a couple of things we have control over when it comes to boosting/padding our overall NET rankings year in and year out. Yes, the most important thing is to win all of your games. Those two Q4 losses are really hurting us, but guess what? FAU also has 2 Q4 losses and they're ranked 33rd. Play more Q1 games? We have no control over how other teams are going to perform when it comes to their own rankings - looking at you SMU and FAU. Memphis has barely snuck back into the top 75 rankings, so they are now a Q1 win again. But, we DO have control over the quadrant system handicap - by lowering the threshold for what qualifies for each quadrant - playing away/neutral site games. 

This got me thinking, so I went back and looked at true mid-majors who are highly ranked to see how their home/away/neutral splits were and found the following: 

#17 Gonzaga - 14 home games, 5 neutral site

#18 St. Mary's - 17 home, 4 neutral

#19 SDSU - 12 home, 3 neutral

#20 Dayton - 14 home, 4 neutral

#33 FAU - 13 home, 7 neutral

#73 USF - 17 home, 1 neutral

Mid-majors who are highly ranked ARE being boosted by how many Q1/Q2 games they are playing - and it could be a direct factor of playing more away/neutral games than we did this year. 

Surprised nobody has mentioned this before, but because the NET rankings reward so heavily to "what games have you played", not necessarily "what games have you won", should USF be actively trying to schedule more away and neutral site games? In football, you want as many home games as possible. In basketball, the "ranking" system doesn't reward home game success because the tiers of Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 are skewed so heavily in favor of neutral and road games to boost standings. Unless the entire conference is highly ranked in the NET (B12), as a team who needs to earn their national coverage, I think USF should drop 4-5 home games and play more neutral/road games both in and out of conference (and of course, request home/homes with all highly-ranked conference opponents, not playing at SMU and FAU this season really hurts our potential NET, even if we lost those two games). Now, the conference tournament is a neutral site, so if we beat FAU/SMU - they will count as Q1 wins next weekend. But home games against lower ranked OOC schools should essentially all but be terminated if the NET continues to exist, which sucks for us as fans. IMO, we should trade any OOC home games early in the season for a neutral site tournament invitational or a road trip. What do you all think? Below are the "splits" for Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 - 

• Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
• Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
• Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
• Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

Charlotte at home, Q3 win. Charlotte away, Q2 win. FAU/SMU at home, Q2 wins. FAU/SMU away, both be Q1 games (FAU Q1 at neutral) as long as they stayed in the top 50 (neutral) and top 75 (road). 

It's obviously a flawed system, but since it is defined and objective, VPoAMK should be doing his best to give our guys their best shot at making the tourney every season, and unfortunately that may mean sacrificing home games for us fans. 

Edited March 8 by USF_Bullsharks

[John Lewis]

21 hours ago, Gat-Rat Bull said:

Plus, if they were to play each other, someone on TBP could post, "USF will destroy us!".

Wouldn't it be USF ('12) vs. South Florida ('24)?