michibull Posted December 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 953 Reputation: 648 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Look, my personal opinion; schools shouldn’t be able to pay players (or NIL, football is supposed to be an extracurricular activity), the players should be able to transfer when they want (they are free individuals). Schools shouldn’t be spending hundreds of millions on athletics facilities when they are a public funded university. All of that money should be used on academics and any extra should be paid back to the people of the state that help fund them. I absolutely love sports and competition; but we’ve lost cabin pressure and reality with college sports. All of the NIL, conference expansion, facilities war, it’s out of control. Ok, I’ll get off my soap box, haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 355 Content Count: 4,098 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Share Posted December 16, 2023 ‘Fighting for our lives’: CSU's Norvell says big-money offers are being used to poach players WWW.COLORADOAN.COM CSU football coach said a $600K offer for QB Brayden Fowler-Nicolosi is just one example of poaching attempts at CSU's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted December 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: ‘Fighting for our lives’: CSU's Norvell says big-money offers are being used to poach players WWW.COLORADOAN.COM CSU football coach said a $600K offer for QB Brayden Fowler-Nicolosi is just one example of poaching attempts at CSU's... honestly there is something wrong with coaches that get paid multi millions per year begging fans to pony up even more money for the players. it's time the schools start paying the players. they can take it out of the funds that pay coaches, athletic directors and ridiculous facility upgrades. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted December 16, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 71 Content Count: 12,314 Reputation: 3,172 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Bull94 said: honestly there is something wrong with coaches that get paid multi millions per year begging fans to pony up even more money for the players. it's time the schools start paying the players. they can take it out of the funds that pay coaches, athletic directors and ridiculous facility upgrades. But then the ncaa and schools would be losing their profits. This nil is a wolf in sheep's clothing having the fans pay the players instead of the schools. It really isn't any different then the U handing out Brown bags of cash or Reggie bush getting cars,houses, and cash. Bush should sue back for his Heisman. He was just ahead of his time because was a free thinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted December 16, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,468 Reputation: 1,781 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Outlaw said: But then the ncaa and schools would be losing their profits. This nil is a wolf in sheep's clothing having the fans pay the players instead of the schools. It really isn't any different then the U handing out Brown bags of cash or Reggie bush getting cars,houses, and cash. Bush should sue back for his Heisman. He was just ahead of his time because was a free thinker. To be fair, NIL was not intended to be "fans paying players" -- the crux of the court case was EA Sports using real names and likenesses of players in their games without paying for that. So NIL was SUPPOSED to be for the actual use of name, image, and likeness - which typically falls under the umbrella of marketing and licensing. The NCAA doesn't really have an answer for the fact NIL has morphed into "legalized" pay-to-play. Edited December 16, 2023 by Jim Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,430 Reputation: 876 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Great to see players that come from impoverished communities - who make their schools hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars - get paid. Democrats should be happy because it is (mostly) impoverished students are now making crazy bank for their labor. Republicans should be happy because its the nature of capitalism. The bigger, wealthier schools will afford the best players. USA baby! (Just stinks when you are USF, and not UF or FSU, but c’est la vie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,539 Reputation: 10,818 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted December 16, 2023 16 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: ‘Fighting for our lives’: CSU's Norvell says big-money offers are being used to poach players WWW.COLORADOAN.COM CSU football coach said a $600K offer for QB Brayden Fowler-Nicolosi is just one example of poaching attempts at CSU's... 4 hours ago, Bull94 said: honestly there is something wrong with coaches that get paid multi millions per year begging fans to pony up even more money for the players. it's time the schools start paying the players. they can take it out of the funds that pay coaches, athletic directors and ridiculous facility upgrades. This probably would have been a more apropos response to an article where a P5 coach is whining about it. Norvell doesn't get paid multi-millions and he's talking about an offer to his player that's 1/3 of his own annual salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat941 Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,895 Reputation: 791 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/28/2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: To be fair, NIL was not intended to be "fans paying players" -- the crux of the court case was EA Sports using real names and likenesses of players in their games without paying for that. So NIL was SUPPOSED to be for the actual use of name, image, and likeness - which typically falls under the umbrella of marketing and licensing. The NCAA doesn't really have an answer for the fact NIL has morphed into "legalized" pay-to-play. There is no equal rights in CFB. It's really an unjust system. The NCAA is powerless and those with the money are running things. Was EA Sports using NIL so terrible? I truly don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,895 Content Count: 66,073 Reputation: 2,431 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Great to see players that come from impoverished communities - who make their schools hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of dollars - get paid. Democrats should be happy because it is (mostly) impoverished students are now making crazy bank for their labor. Republicans should be happy because its the nature of capitalism. The bigger, wealthier schools will afford the best players. USA baby! (Just stinks when you are USF, and not UF or FSU, but c’est la vie). as a lifelong liberal democrat i am happy as a pig in mud 16 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: ‘Fighting for our lives’: CSU's Norvell says big-money offers are being used to poach players WWW.COLORADOAN.COM CSU football coach said a $600K offer for QB Brayden Fowler-Nicolosi is just one example of poaching attempts at CSU's... one of the biggest cry babies in sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted December 16, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,013 Reputation: 4,544 Days Won: 38 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted December 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Republicans should be happy because its the nature of capitalism. The bigger, wealthier schools will afford the best players. USA baby! (Just stinks when you are USF, and not UF or FSU, but c’est la vie). This is an old school definition of Republican and Democrat. The corporate masters have captured both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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