Jim Johnson Posted March 11, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Dave_Glaser said: The most awful of those hires might end up being Jolene. That program is flat out trash right now. Sure... but the program has been a dumpster fire for twenty years. It's not like Draper or Lessinger had that much success. Shepardson did have some track record of turning programs around out west.... the team won more this year than last year. Time will tell - and a non-revenue sport gets a little more leeway, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,919 Reputation: 4,042 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: Sure... but the program has been a dumpster fire for twenty years. It's not like Draper or Lessinger had that much success. Shepardson did have some track record of turning programs around out west.... the team won more this year than last year. Time will tell - and a non-revenue sport gets a little more leeway, right? **** Jim, you are either a huge fan of Volleyball or a perv, either way props to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 11, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Friscobull said: **** Jim, you are either a huge fan of Volleyball or a perv, either way props to you. No, I just know how to use Google... but I didn't recall any big success in volleyball in a loooong time myself. Edited March 11, 2023 by Jim Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Johnson said: Followed standard practice in extending Brian Gregory before his final season. Standard practice is not to do blanket contract extensions across the board for all sports under the pretense of stability. I don't know another AD in the country that would do that. Kelly may be a good fundraiser but he's woefully incompetent on the hiring, managing and development of his coaching staff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted March 11, 2023 22 hours ago, WWMJD said: Heat should really be on Kelly now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michibull Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 960 Reputation: 652 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/29/2012 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I think this next hire will say a lot about the priorities of the University and Athletics Department. It’s a chance for a fresh start for MBB. We have been told that they are taking it more serious now. We didn’t make a splash with the CFB coaching hire (may end up a great hire, but he’s unproven). I feel like talent is crucial for MBB and if we don’t get a marquee coaching hire, we will be dead in the water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,144 Reputation: 4,649 Days Won: 40 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, michibull said: if we don’t get a marquee coaching hire, we will be dead in the water. So basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanbull Posted March 11, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 295 Content Count: 6,851 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 22 Joined: 12/23/2001 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Jim Johnson said: Sure... but the program has been a dumpster fire for twenty years. It's not like Draper or Lessinger had that much success. Shepardson did have some track record of turning programs around out west.... the team won more this year than last year. Time will tell - and a non-revenue sport gets a little more leeway, right? I coached volleyball for 15 years, so I follow the volleyball team. USF used to be good in past then it hit a wall and the most recent coaches didn’t work out. I do think they have improved under current coach, it will be interesting to see if that continues. But I do agree as a non revenue sport most won’t care and it won’t be a sport that gets USF to higher levels and by the way that includes baseball, Women’s Basketball but that doesn’t mean we can’t and or we shouldn’t support and expect them to be success As for basketball. Go after Frank Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted March 11, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,491 Reputation: 1,808 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, El_Toro_86 said: Standard practice is not to do blanket contract extensions across the board for all sports under the pretense of stability. I don't know another AD in the country that would do that. Kelly may be a good fundraiser but he's woefully incompetent on the hiring, managing and development of his coaching staff. Except.... that is not what Michael Kelly did. He extended Scott, Gregory, Fernandez, and Schilte-Brown. Four coaches out of 15 got extensions... and I think only Scott wads "early" in his contract. And why do you think ADs are supposed to develop coaches' abilities? That seems to be an unrealistic expectation... he should be managing coaches that develop themselves and their teams, sure... but Kelly isn't an expert on 15 sports to provide guidance on what they're doing right or wrong. If a coach can't figure out what is wrong, then Kelly needs to fire them ... and ... HE DID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted March 11, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,508 Reputation: 1,262 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: Except.... that is not what Michael Kelly did. He extended Scott, Gregory, Fernandez, and Schilte-Brown. Four coaches out of 15 got extensions... and I think only Scott wads "early" in his contract. And why do you think ADs are supposed to develop coaches' abilities? That seems to be an unrealistic expectation... he should be managing coaches that develop themselves and their teams, sure... but Kelly isn't an expert on 15 sports to provide guidance on what they're doing right or wrong. If a coach can't figure out what is wrong, then Kelly needs to fire them ... and ... HE DID. Speaking of Scott, can you give me any reasonable explanation why anyone would have extended him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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