What good would firing the coach

[olafberserker]

5 minutes ago, Brad said:

That wasn't good enough for ASU and it shouldn't be good enough for us.  Plus, the unfortunate NCAA violations.

Yeah, he was even bad a cheating

[Rocky Style]

That's a bummer.  I was rooting for Herm.  

[sparkybull]

On 9/27/2022 at 4:31 PM, Brad said:

That wasn't good enough for ASU and it shouldn't be good enough for us.  Plus, the unfortunate NCAA violations.

i'm also an ASU sun devil 

herm edwards doesnt give two s**** about where he's at, horrible coaching decision 

Edited September 29, 2022 by sparkybull

[Brad]

sparkybull  makes sense now....

 

[MikePhillips]

As someone who started at USF in 1996, a year before we even had a program

As someone who lived with USF players in Fontana Hall, in the late 1990's

As someone who has a football used in the the first ever game

The #1 biggest white elephant in the room... is that the culture for USF football is broken.. And it all leads to Judy Genshaft

She NEVER cared about USF football... or the positive effects it could have on the university, the campus, the school spirit, nothing

Genshaft was the President of USF from 2000 to 2019

If you ignore the first three years of USF football's existence, Judy Genshaft was the non-supportive President of USF for nearly 90% of USF football's existence

And if you ask people who are deeply entrenched in the program, she had VERY little enthusiam or support for USF Football. And it shows

Notice how the locker rooms got updated (2020-2021), almost immediately after she leaves? 

Notice a year later after she leaves, we start working on the IPF (2021)?

Notice 2 years after she leaves, we start discussing an On Campus Stadium?

Look at years 2000-2019.... ZERO investment in USF Football.

All the marquee wins, all the standings, all the momentum we had in the 2000's... she did NOTHING with it because she didn't support it. 

The instant she leaves? Updated locker rooms (2020), IPF starts to get built (2021), on campus stadium starts to become a real discussion (2025)

That's some coincidence, that the instant Judy Genshaft leaves, we start investing in the program?

FACT - Our program is in the condition it's in right now, because we had a University President that did not support the program, and our culture was broken from the top down.

USF football was basically born in 1997, and was put in jail for 19 years from 2000-2019... and is NOW finally getting the support it needs... 

The program isn't 25 years old, it's 3 years old.. it re-started in 2020 when Genshaft left the office of President

It's no coincedence, that the major investments we've seen in USF football (locker room, IPF, OCS, etc) have ALL taken place after she left. 

 

 

[Outlaw]

37 minutes ago, MikePhillips said:

As someone who started at USF in 1996, a year before we even had a program

As someone who lived with USF players in Fontana Hall, in the late 1990's

As someone who has a football used in the the first ever game

The #1 biggest white elephant in the room... is that the culture for USF football is broken.. And it all leads to Judy Genshaft

She NEVER cared about USF football... or the positive effects it could have on the university, the campus, the school spirit, nothing

Genshaft was the President of USF from 2000 to 2019

If you ignore the first three years of USF football's existence, Judy Genshaft was the non-supportive President of USF for nearly 90% of USF football's existence

And if you ask people who are deeply entrenched in the program, she had VERY little enthusiam or support for USF Football. And it shows

Notice how the locker rooms got updated (2020-2021), almost immediately after she leaves? 

Notice a year later after she leaves, we start working on the IPF (2021)?

Notice 2 years after she leaves, we start discussing an On Campus Stadium?

Look at years 2000-2019.... ZERO investment in USF Football.

All the marquee wins, all the standings, all the momentum we had in the 2000's... she did NOTHING with it because she didn't support it. 

The instant she leaves? Updated locker rooms (2020), IPF starts to get built (2021), on campus stadium starts to become a real discussion (2025)

That's some coincidence, that the instant Judy Genshaft leaves, we start investing in the program?

FACT - Our program is in the condition it's in right now, because we had a University President that did not support the program, and our culture was broken from the top down.

USF football was basically born in 1997, and was put in jail for 19 years from 2000-2019... and is NOW finally getting the support it needs... 

The program isn't 25 years old, it's 3 years old.. it re-started in 2020 when Genshaft left the office of President

It's no coincedence, that the major investments we've seen in USF football (locker room, IPF, OCS, etc) have ALL taken place after she left. 

 

 

Now that is a new one football program restarted when Judy retired.  So this new culture started and all the players know is losing . So you think usf football is 4-21 amd 1-21 against teams? Nothing in the past matters even the wins and accomplishments of the past coaches and players ? Jim Leavitt means nothing I guess because he built USF football from nothing with nothing , made us a consistent winner, and put in the national spotlight with some big wins.  If he heard usf fans talk like this he get be pissed and screaming I am sure. Usf football is where it is at because the fans and ad mk are supporting losing and rewarding it with extensions for failure . We need to spend more money and invest in a better coaching staff next go around if/when this coaching staff doesn't work out. Gemshaft did neglect athletics and put the football team on life support when she fired Leavitt.  It just didn't restart it was ran into the ground by athletic directors , bad coaching, and neglect from leadership.  Now we have the support off the field and the coaching need to do a complete 180 and stop making excuses .

Edited September 30, 2022 by Outlaw

[sparkybull]

18 hours ago, Brad said:

sparkybull  makes sense now....

 

it was either that or rockydevil 

[jchem1995]

Mike you nailed it.

[sparkybull]

4 hours ago, MikePhillips said:

As someone who started at USF in 1996, a year before we even had a program

As someone who lived with USF players in Fontana Hall, in the late 1990's

As someone who has a football used in the the first ever game

The #1 biggest white elephant in the room... is that the culture for USF football is broken.. And it all leads to Judy Genshaft

She NEVER cared about USF football... or the positive effects it could have on the university, the campus, the school spirit, nothing

Genshaft was the President of USF from 2000 to 2019

If you ignore the first three years of USF football's existence, Judy Genshaft was the non-supportive President of USF for nearly 90% of USF football's existence

And if you ask people who are deeply entrenched in the program, she had VERY little enthusiam or support for USF Football. And it shows

Notice how the locker rooms got updated (2020-2021), almost immediately after she leaves? 

Notice a year later after she leaves, we start working on the IPF (2021)?

Notice 2 years after she leaves, we start discussing an On Campus Stadium?

Look at years 2000-2019.... ZERO investment in USF Football.

All the marquee wins, all the standings, all the momentum we had in the 2000's... she did NOTHING with it because she didn't support it. 

The instant she leaves? Updated locker rooms (2020), IPF starts to get built (2021), on campus stadium starts to become a real discussion (2025)

That's some coincidence, that the instant Judy Genshaft leaves, we start investing in the program?

FACT - Our program is in the condition it's in right now, because we had a University President that did not support the program, and our culture was broken from the top down.

USF football was basically born in 1997, and was put in jail for 19 years from 2000-2019... and is NOW finally getting the support it needs... 

The program isn't 25 years old, it's 3 years old.. it re-started in 2020 when Genshaft left the office of President

It's no coincedence, that the major investments we've seen in USF football (locker room, IPF, OCS, etc) have ALL taken place after she left. 

 

 

yes and no

she had other priorities, like making us a research powerhouse and developing an academic enterprise. That has worked as planned and I envision we soon compete with FSU for the top 2 uni in florida.

the first USF president wanted nothing to do with athletics either.

it's in our DNA to neglect football.

[Rocky Style]

10 minutes ago, sparkybull said:

it's in our DNA to neglect football.

Well luckily we are entering the medical era of playing God.  We can change our DNA.