Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[Jim Johnson]

On 4/12/2024 at 2:13 PM, USF_Bullsharks said:

ACC only has 1 pro-rata addition from what others have said (4 in contract, 3 used already). So if they lose FSU/Clemson, would they only be able to add 1 at pro-rata or are those two seats considered vacant, therefore they will have 3 open full-share additions? I guess the answer to that is "nobody except the ACC knows", trade secrets and all that jazz, but I think it's just as good of a chance that the ACC adds 0 as much as it is they'll add 1, which are both more likely than if they add >1. Unless of course those pro-rata shares are available, and they offer half-shares and increase payouts to existing members, etc. There are so many possibilities. 

Speaking of tv contracts, everyone thinks the B12 will just add whoever they want all willy-nilly if the ACC opens up. Well, they spent their 4 pro-rata additions on the 4C schools, and would need at least one of Fox/ESPN to agree to pay more money for ANY additions to the conference between now and the next tv contract in 2030/31. 

Speaking of Utah, who did not sign the membership agreement (which basically just secures exit-fees contracted to members, it's not the GoR or some Texas-based blood oath and really shouldn't be discussed much), it is important to remember that they were given a full-share of TV revenue from the B12 (as did each of the 4C additions). So for the ACC to attract them, they will also need to offer a full share at the very least. You know who was not offered a full tv share? Calford/SMU. As much as Utah (and probably ASU) might make sense for the ACC long-term, there's very little chance that the ACC can provide a home for them unless they can convince ESPN to cover the costs of adding them.

When they lose FSU and Clemson, ESPN is going to renegotiate... so the pro-rata additions won't matter.

[Jim Johnson]

On 4/12/2024 at 6:27 PM, Sellular1 said:

And the 5,000 students Tulane has???

Tulane has 14,000 students... more than Wake Forest and Boston College... and almost as many as Duke and Miami.

[Sellular1]

12 hours ago, Jim Johnson said:

Tulane has 14,000 students... more than Wake Forest and Boston College... and almost as many as Duke and Miami.

Should have noticed my sarcasm font when comparing the size of Tulane student body to USF… and they only have 8,000 undergrads.

[Jim Johnson]

22 hours ago, Sellular1 said:

Should have noticed my sarcasm font when comparing the size of Tulane student body to USF… and they only have 8,000 undergrads.

Gotcha, my browser has trouble displaying the sarcasm fonts sometimes ...

Just as a note, however, Duke has less than 7,000 undergrads.

[Cat941]

 

[Bull Matrix]

11 minutes ago, Cat941 said:

 

Lol he is not even trying to hide his big 12 bias. The facts are that no ACC will leave for the western conference known as the big 12. The PAC12 debacle has them high as a kite…

[Outlaw]

36 minutes ago, Bull Matrix said:

Lol he is not even trying to hide his big 12 bias. The facts are that no ACC will leave for the western conference known as the big 12. The PAC12 debacle has them high as a kite…

Going to the big12 to make one million less per year when you are complaining that ACC doesn't pay enough doesnt make any sense.

[Peatearpan]

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Going to the big12 to make one million less per year when you are complaining that ACC doesn't pay enough doesnt make any sense.

This’ll show them!

-  FSU probably.

[Outlaw]

I can find the exact quote if needed, but last week the sec commissioner basically said they weren't looking to expand and ha e the best athletic conference top to bottom .

[Mission9]

12 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

I can find the exact quote if needed, but last week the sec commissioner basically said they weren't looking to expand and ha e the best athletic conference top to bottom .

I am guessing he said that after having to wipe the egg from his face. Last month was lamenting the fact they only received 8 bids to the NCAA tournament and that there were too many automatic bids (read small conferences). After which he saw more than half exit in the first round despite all being higher seeds. In any case, if the networks find a way to pay for it, he would not outright dismiss adding FSU or Clemson.