Friscobull Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,869 Reputation: 3,984 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted March 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, bjef4844 said: I agree. After Year 1 I am not totally sure what we have in CJS, but I am not mad about it. CWT's first 2+ years looked like a mess, but he figured it out. CJS is also a first time coach who is also learning on the fly. If he can find an average quarterback then he'll have a chance for success here. I used to follow recruiting closer and CWT’s first full class was awesome and we felt like we had something even though his offensive strategy was awful, he was forced to change it and Q was a stud. Not sure we can pull another genie out of the bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,430 Reputation: 876 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 hours ago, puc86 said: I can get over it pretty quickly as long as he makes considerable and tangible improvement Thank goodness! This is probably CJS's #1 concern seeing how you're king of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peatearpan Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 42 Content Count: 2,524 Reputation: 842 Days Won: 3 Joined: 11/30/2018 Share Posted March 9, 2021 13 hours ago, Friscobull said: I used to follow recruiting closer and CWT’s first full class was awesome and we felt like we had something even though his offensive strategy was awful, he was forced to change it and Q was a stud. Not sure we can pull another genie out of the bottle. If he gets a good culture here, the IPF finally gets built, and we can get back to bowl games, then we should see an improvement and we may just snag a local kid that can ball. The culture here was not good, I think CWT saw the writing on the wall as well as dollar signs and jumped ship. Charlie came in and lost control of the locker room completely, and our football team was in a huge identity crisis (probably started when Pilsbury Skippy came to town). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Thank goodness! This is probably CJS's #1 concern seeing how you're king of the world. Funny, I’m not worried about me. I’m worried about the thousands of others that have not attended a game in years, have stopped posting on Thebullspen, have stopped following us in general, don’t click on articles anymore, haven’t bought any merchandise and make no more contributions to USF. It’s easier to lose people than it is to win them back and each passing day of institutionalized failure leads to the loss of more fans that we may never win back, which is particularly concerning when you consider that current youth are a difficult group to try to convert to a fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,430 Reputation: 876 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted March 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, puc86 said: Funny, I’m not worried about me. I’m worried about the thousands of others that... Wow! Not only are you already king, but also running for office. Go Puc go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, zarnozdabull said: Wow! Not only are you already king, but also running for office. Go Puc go! I appreciate your support in making USF great again, we are going to build a wall on the other side of Lakeland and UCF is going to pay for it! Here have a hat Edited March 9, 2021 by puc86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 15 hours ago, Friscobull said: I used to follow recruiting closer and CWT’s first full class was awesome and we felt like we had something even though his offensive strategy was awful, he was forced to change it and Q was a stud. Not sure we can pull another genie out of the bottle. Yes, we can pull another Genie out of the bottle.....stop being such a **** pessimist! Nobody these days has patience, even the supposed smart ones! Yeah I'm looking at you Frisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjef4844 Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 424 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/26/2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Jonesy Bull said: Yes, we can pull another Genie out of the bottle.....stop being such a **** pessimist! Nobody these days has patience, even the supposed smart ones! Yeah I'm looking at you Frisco. I think we actually have a pretty good history of being able to field above average quarterbacks for the respectful levels of football we were playing at the time: Chad Barnhardt (1997 - 1998) Marquel Blackwell (1999-2002) Matt Grothe (2006 - 2009) BJ Daniels (2008 - 2012) Quinton Flowers (2014 - 2017) Over a 21 year stretch we had a pretty good quarterback on the roster for us 17 of the 21 years. Now, the last 3 years haven't been kind, but hope our offensive minded HC can find someone in that same ilk as the five listed above. There is a reason to be optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 50 minutes ago, bjef4844 said: I think we actually have a pretty good history of being able to field above average quarterbacks for the respectful levels of football we were playing at the time: Chad Barnhardt (1997 - 1998) Marquel Blackwell (1999-2002) Matt Grothe (2006 - 2009) BJ Daniels (2008 - 2012) Quinton Flowers (2014 - 2017) Over a 21 year stretch we had a pretty good quarterback on the roster for us 17 of the 21 years. Now, the last 3 years haven't been kind, but hope our offensive minded HC can find someone in that same ilk as the five listed above. There is a reason to be optimistic. There is reason to be optimistic, when there is reason to be optimistic. Right now most are pessimistic for a very easy way out. Its hard to be optimistic, when you aren't strong enough to be optimistic. But soooooo much easier to be pessimistic....I would call out names, but I'm not supposed to do that. Right Puc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted March 9, 2021 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,582 Reputation: 10,848 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted March 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said: Right now most are pessimistic for a very easy way out. Come on, Jonesy, only one is really pessimistic ....... and that's just what he is about almost everything USF these days. Don't get deafened by the huge squeaky wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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