bowman1 Posted July 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Gatorbull325 said: I’m bored so I’m going to play devil’s advocate and piss of some CCS haters. How I rank the coaches - Taggart Strong Holtz I am pretty sure that anyone on this board could have won between 8-10 games coaching the 2017 team CJL would have run roughshod over the 2017 schedule at 12-0, all 30+ point victories CWT would have been 12-0 in 2017, with records for points scored and points allowed Even CSH probably could have won 12 games that year (though half would have been slogs) As such, 2017 was an outlier for CCS - the bottom line is he lost 14 of his last 18 games, playing the weakest competition any of our 4 coaches have faced 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted July 24, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,271 Reputation: 6,153 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted July 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, chapelbull said: No shizzz. CCS was a debacle from the San Jose State game in 2017 until the bitter end Hit me with a medley of your best stuff Well now I don’t want to do it because someone actually asked for it, I don’t want to train people to believe I preform on command. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted July 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,201 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Friscobull said: he did not develop players, any of them, he made them worse. This is so true...his time here I can't really think of any players that got much better when he was here most just were the same. Holtz left behind for Taggart a complete dumpster fire with little talent. Scott will inherit a team with some talent just haven't been coached well so the turn around shouldn't be as tough for Scott if he is a good coach. We saw that Texas turned around pretty quick once Strong left and got a good coach. Edited July 25, 2020 by Bulls On Parade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bowman1 said: I am pretty sure that anyone on this board could have won between 8-10 games coaching the 2017 team CJL would have run roughshod over the 2017 schedule at 12-0, all 30+ point victories CWT would have been 12-0 in 2017, with records for points scored and points allowed Even CSH probably could have won 12 games that year (though half would have been slogs) As such, 2017 was an outlier for CCS - the bottom line is he lost 14 of his last 18 games, playing the weakest competition any of our 4 coaches have faced There is zero evidence to support that statement. Regardless, he had the advantage of BCS players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 25, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 72 Content Count: 12,610 Reputation: 3,297 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Read below. combined post. Edited July 25, 2020 by TheGreatOutlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted July 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted July 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: There is zero evidence to support that statement. Regardless, he had the advantage of BCS players. against BCS teams ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 25, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 72 Content Count: 12,610 Reputation: 3,297 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, chapelbull said: against BCS teams ...... 22 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: There is zero evidence to support that statement. Regardless, he had the advantage of BCS players. He developed BCS players and talent that no one else recruited. CJL undeafeted versus UCF. CCS never beat UCF. Edited July 25, 2020 by TheGreatOutlaw combing post 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, TheGreatOutlaw said: He developed BCS players and talent that no one else recruited. CJL undeafeted versus UCF. CCS never beat UCF. He would have still have problems beating Memphis and Temple. He had difficulty with smash mouth teams year after year. Further. UCF is much better than when we played them in Leavitt days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted July 25, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 72 Content Count: 12,610 Reputation: 3,297 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said: He would have still have problems beating Memphis and Temple. He had difficulty with smash mouth teams year after year. Further. UCF is much better than when we played them in Leavitt days. So were we. Edited July 25, 2020 by TheGreatOutlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 25, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Just now, TheGreatOutlaw said: So were we. Agreed. But the quote that we would go 13-0 now with Leavitt is almost comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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