Bull Dozer Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: I don't necessarily agree with Flowers and see how it could be a problem, but, the beauty of what he did is this... He can say he was rolling a dice and suddenly, YOU are the dirty one for thinking otherwise. Not saying it's right, but, parents have a story for their kids that ask about it, and, IF the rumors are true about what UCF fans were saying to him, he got to give it back to them in a very smart way that he could defend as innocent. Again, if YOU read more into the gesture, then, YOU are the one with the dirty mind (even if it is totally what he meant by it). DJ and Flowers have both, for sure, used the dice rolling celebration in the past as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 1,633 Reputation: 350 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/23/2007 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Boomer said: I think all of us have our own line where we would get offended (or at least see it as offensive to others) and feel something should be done to send a message that we need to maintain some amount of decency. It crossed my line for sure. I remember getting on a fellow USF fan for making that same gesture at FSU fans from our section in Tallahassee. There were women and young children within 6 feet of this guy, and I was mortified at how this idiot was representing our university. I haven't even told my wife about Quinton's gesture (she will most likely not find out since she doesn't read the sports sections or use Twitter). I really don't want to ruin her perception of him whom she literally was crying for on senior night. I'd love to say he was "rolling dice," or that he was doing it to people who were taunting him in a cruel way, but if I take off my green and gold glasses, I'm seeing it for what it was. We already have shown a lack of discipline on the field with all of our penalties this season, and the UCF game was no exception. I know CCS already came out and defended Flowers for his motive, but I can't see how he doesn't do something to hold Flowers accountable for the action and send a message to the rest of the team. Does the NCAA ever step in if a school chooses not to address something like this? 1 hour ago, Capital H said: What a prude. Those "innocent" college kids have seen that action on pornhub 1000 times. If this is really something that would "ruin your perception" then you were probably looking for an excuse to not like the man. Who are you quoting here? Since you quoted my post, I'm going to assume you incorrectly used quotations marks to indicate I said something I actually did not. I never said they were innocent college students, nor did I say that my perception of him is ruined. He's a good kid that screwed up in the moment. Still like him a lot, still think he's the best USF football player ever, and still hope he finds success. However, I'm actually a little worried about him once the coaching support that he's had is gone if he doesn't get to the next level. But it's clear you have a MUCH higher tolerance than me (and hopefully A LOT of others) if you think just because some people have seen an act on a porn site, that no one should be offended if that act is imitated in front of everyone. Really? You may not admit it, but you have a line of decency as well. So go back to Pornhub and watch closely and come back to tell us if everything you saw is fair game to act out in front of the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL2014 Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 291 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2014 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Why does this offend you all so much. Get over it. I thought it was funny. I don’t see how it makes our University look bad, the same way with Oklahoma. If actions of 18-22 year olds are really offensive to you then maybe some re-evaluation of your life is needed. They’re college kids having fun playing a competitive fiery game. It’s not like he’s the CEO of a multi billion dollar business. He’s young, he’s got some Swagger to him and he’s a **** good football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital H Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 106 Content Count: 1,318 Reputation: 265 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/15/2008 Share Posted November 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, Boomer said: Who are you quoting here? Since you quoted my post, I'm going to assume you incorrectly used quotations marks to indicate I said something I actually did not. I never said they were innocent college students, nor did I say that my perception of him is ruined. He's a good kid that screwed up in the moment. Still like him a lot, still think he's the best USF football player ever, and still hope he finds success. However, I'm actually a little worried about him once the coaching support that he's had is gone if he doesn't get to the next level. But it's clear you have a MUCH higher tolerance than me (and hopefully A LOT of others) if you think just because some people have seen an act on a porn site, that no one should be offended if that act is imitated in front of everyone. Really? You may not admit it, but you have a line of decency as well. So go back to Pornhub and watch closely and come back to tell us if everything you saw is fair game to act out in front of the general public. Some people? LOL Pornhub gets 23 BILLION visits a year, and thats one website. I'm guessing its more than a handful of teenage nerds who missed out on prom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Old white people love to get offended 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,636 Reputation: 10,876 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bull Dozer said: Old white people love to get offended That offends me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 27, 2017 What’s pornhub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theman123 Posted November 27, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 411 Content Count: 5,591 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 3 Joined: 12/10/2006 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Haven't seen this yet. He apologized. http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21557396/quinton-flowers-south-florida-bulls-apologizes-gesture-made-vs-ucf-knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullstampede9922 Posted November 28, 2017 Group: Member Topic Count: 12 Content Count: 1,494 Reputation: 554 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/24/2013 Share Posted November 28, 2017 The higher camera angle makes it look worse. If you were at field level, probably looks more like rolling dice. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If it was that bad, I'm sure the flag happy refs would have thrown one for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted November 28, 2017 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,703 Reputation: 5,836 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, bullstampede9922 said: The higher camera angle makes it look worse. If you were at field level, probably looks more like rolling dice. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If it was that bad, I'm sure the flag happy refs would have thrown one for that. Because all right handed QBs throw dice left handed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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