Coach Strong and OCS

[Bulls 1]

1 hour ago, jg233 said:

No way we get into a P5 conference without an OCS...we will never be considered a serious program until we build one.

Totally Agree

[Bulls On Parade]

1 hour ago, jg233 said:

Pitt has lots of tradition and a much bigger fan base.  We have a very small fan base and little to no tradition and we aren't exactly building any kind of tradition at Rayjay either.

Pitt had a thurs game last year vs ranked Va Tech with under 40k  at game...I bet USF could do better than that.

Curious  what attendance looks like these last 2 home games.

Edited October 15, 2017 by Bulls On Parade

[E.T.]

OCS has little to do with getting into a P5 conference.

[Apis Bull]

1 minute ago, E.T. said:

OCS has little to do with getting into a P5 conference.

Don't you know that an OCS is a panacea?  It will increase attendance, get us into a P5 conference, double the US GDP, cure dandruff, etc.

[ArmyBull]

7 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

Don't you know that an OCS is a panacea?  It will increase attendance, get us into a P5 conference, double the US GDP, cure dandruff, etc.

It would provide a number of benifits that we don't have right now and many here, because they don't know any different, refuse to see that.  That being said, no, an OCS will not bring us into P5 consideration.  

However, I could argue that the long term tradition building from an OCS could.  

 

 

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, jg233 said:

No way we get into a P5 conference without an OCS...we will never be considered a serious program until we build one.

 

37 minutes ago, lotsofbull99 said:

I've been saying that for years,

This should be your first clue ...

[Mama_Bull]

1 hour ago, jg233 said:

Pitt has lots of tradition and a much bigger fan base.  We have a very small fan base and little to no tradition and we aren't exactly building any kind of tradition at Rayjay either.

When USF was in CUSA, our attendance was similar to what it is now. So, Pitt had substantially more.

2006 NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE

48. Pittsburgh 7 303,138 43,305

76. South Fla. 6 181,333 30,222

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2006.pdf

 

Once we moved into the Big East we increased our attendance dramatically increased.

 

2007 NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE 

38. South Fla. 6 319,019 53,170

70. Pittsburgh 7 233,203 33,315

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2007.pdf

 

2008 NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE

42. South Fla. 6 298,142 49,690

44. Pittsburgh 6 296,113 49,352

 

2009 NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE

This one doesn't show national rankings beyond the top 30 schools.

It does show:

2009 DIVISION I FOOTBALL LARGEST AVERAGE ATTENDANCE INCREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEAR

13. Pittsburgh 7 53,446 49,352 4,093

19. South Fla. 6 52,553 49,690 2,863

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2009.pdf

 

2010

2010 NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE

Once again they don't show national ranking beyond the top 30 schools.

Pittsburgh 6 312,991 52,165

South Fla. 7 285,946 40,849

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2010.pdf

 

2011

Our attendance rebounded.

2011 DIVISION I FOOTBALL LARGEST AVERAGE ATTENDANCE INCREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEAR

17. South Fla. 7 44,550 40,849 3,700

Pittsburgh 8 368,022 46,003

 

You can check other years for attendance at the link below.

http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statistics/ncaa-football-attendance

 

The point is that despite not having the football tradition of Pitt, nor its presumably much larger fan base, once given the opportunity to play in a MAJOR football conference, USF PROVED in little time that it could draw fans to RayJAY and match them in attendance in most years.

If we had an OCS during the BE years, we would have sold out in just about every game we played. It wouldn't have been big enough to accommodate the demand.

On the other hand if we had an OCS in the C-USA years, I suspect that most games would not have sold out.

I don't think building an OCS while we are in the AAC is worth the $200 - $300  million gamble, unless USF clearly determined that doing so would greatly help us to get a P5 invite. I have seen nothing that would lead to me to believe that is the case. 

If USF would be assured a P5 invite, I believe that USF would build an even bigger and better stadium than currently envisioned. In such a case, many more people would be inclined to give larger donations. 

 

[usfbullrider]

Lee Roy Selmon built this house.  Charlie choose this job to pad his resume and almost any experienced head coach would be winning these games with our players 95%  Taggart recruits.  So let's not commission statues and namesakes just yet.

[Apis Bull]

26 minutes ago, usfbullrider said:

Lee Roy Selmon built this house.  Charlie choose this job to pad his resume and almost any experienced head coach would be winning these games with our players 95%  Taggart recruits.  So let's not commission statues and namesakes just yet.

When I win the Powerball, I'm going to donate for Lee Roy Selmon Field at Publix Stadium

[JTrue]

8 minutes ago, Apis Bull said:

When I win the Powerball, I'm going to donate for Lee Roy Selmon Field at Publix Stadium

If I win the Powerball, I'm going to offer them the money only on the condition they name it CJL field. How do you think that will go over?