Charlie Strong

[tau.reanb]

2 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Anyone have the skinny on the Texas contract? what could or would be the potential hold up from the Texas perspective?

The bottom line is Texas owes him money. The more we offer Strong, the less money Texas owes him. 

[206BULL]

1 minute ago, NewEnglandBull said:

Anyone have the skinny on the Texas contract? what could or would be the potential hold up from the Texas perspective?

Speculation is it has to do with us trying to back load it so much. Texas is trying to minimize their payments to Strong.

[GaUSFBull]

Don't know why USF allowed a Texas rep in the discussions at all.  None of their biz what USF and Strong work out.   Seems Texas just needs to abide by whatever happens since they're the ones who wrote the contract and they're the ones who fired Strong.  They just need to make sure they fulfill their part of the contract.

If Texas had a legal right to be there, I'd love to hear how, as I'm not an attorney and all of the above statments are my uneducated assumptions.  

[dclenden]

Strong's contract with UT was previously posted by George Jenkins.

https://hkm.com/football/wp-content/uploads/coach-contracts/charliestrong-uta-employment-contract.pdf

[Bull-Hornz]

21 hours ago, Orlando Bull said:

Read the termination without cause portion of the contract. Nothing says UT can force him to take a job, force him to make $xx, or take away buyout under any circumstances. The *only* thing they could say is he is violating this phrase... "coach acknowledges that he will minimize the payments due to him...".

So, they could say that a back-loaded deal is not in good faith. Still, it would be hard to argue a 4 year deal with steps in pay... year 1 - $1M, year 2 - $1.5M, year 3 - $2.25M, year 4 - $3.5M or something like this... It's still roughly $2M per year for us, which we need to pony up for a good coach, is defensible with them, and everyone wins. Nothing says that he has to take the highest offer either, so, as long as he is diligently seeking employment, he's good.

... which brings up a potential issue... what if he wants to sit out a year, but, he's interviewing to prove that he is trying to "minimize the payments", but, couldn't find anything that felt like the right fit...

This looks like it could be in the right line of thought...thx @Orlando Bull

Edited December 10, 2016 by Bull-Hornz

[Bull-Hornz]

30 minutes ago, George Jenkins said:

You guts should pick up this thread around page 30 or so. Actual Texas contract is discussed with legal opinions from TBP attorneys.

Went back and reposting relevant info...

[Flowers4Heisman]

How I read, "I'll be back," is that he's interested.

Obviously, legal ramifications (money) is a challenge here.

If it weren't for the Texas strings, I bet it would be a done deal.

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Where does USF go from here? I don't want gap-tooth man or 'Bama's OC.

Lots of young coaches out there.

[Bull-Hornz]

21 hours ago, Bulls Are We said:

"Coach agrees to make every reasonable effort to obtain other employment as long as the university has an obligation to make payments".  

If Charlie tries to sit it out for two years Texas can fight paying him.  

I hope USF is not just a "Reasonable attempt to obtain other employment"  

 

[Flowers4Heisman]

2 minutes ago, Bull-Hornz said:

 

We fell for the B12 expansion trick...

[Bull-Hornz]

21 hours ago, RaisingFenix said:

But does he have a responsibility to negotiate the highest salary he can? I think he does, but that's hard to quantify or prove. Maybe Texas sent a chaperone along and said, "Hey Charlie, you make whatever deal you see fit, but if our guy isn't satisfied with the deal, we may have to take this to court and hold our payments to you until a judge decides if you really fulfilled your obligation to us."