BDYZR Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,475 Reputation: 2,855 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Next year will be the 3rd under CWT. He holds a 5-year contract (http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20121208/ARTICLE/121209628). Apparently, it's a reset with the offense and defense. Does this give CWT more time because it will be a "new" philosophy (1 year to install the new offense and 1 to get it working correctly)? Where's the line in the sand and what are we looking at here in terms of minimal results? Again, we should remember what Houston did: Houston coach Tony Levine fired after Cougars' 7-5 campaign “Although we are excited to play in our second straight bowl game, the expectations of our program have changed over the last five years," Rhoades said in a statement.​ http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/12/06/tony-levine-fired-houston-cougars What if we were 6-6 or 7-5 with no wins against the top of the conference, only win ooc is the first one... For me, he's got to show MAJOR improvement in game and team management. If we beat only the bottom of the conference and look bad doing it... I would fire him. We need butts in the seats, barely winning at the bottom of the AAC doesn't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I agree with everyone else that it will be year-to-year... More than that, I think CWT will have to make improvements each of his last three years: 2015 - Bowl game or you're fired 2016 - More wins than 2015 ... OR ... Higher average attendance (without the FSU game) than 2015 2017 - More wins than 2016 ... OR ... Higher average attendance than 2016 ... OR ... Being Ranked in the Top 25 during and at the end of the season That will show the momentum we need to support Harlan's efforts to build an OCS, build our donor base, build our season ticket base, and position USF for the next round of conference expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowardBull17 Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 14 Content Count: 807 Reputation: 297 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/06/2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 If he doesn't win 6 games and they keep him my 4 season tix are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted December 18, 2014 For me it's not about the absolute value of the number of wins, it's how they're achieved. Will we pass the eye test? This year we went 4-8 with a team that could just as easily gone 0-12. Those 4 wins were neither convincing nor reassuring. I would even accept 3-9 next year as progress if all 3 wins were very convincing, and all 9 losses were reassuring While it would be a step back in the W/L, it could be a step forward in execution, which would bode well for the following year. After what happened this year, my EXPECTATIONS are to go 0-12 next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan1983 Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 4 Content Count: 839 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/17/2013 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is 6 wins but no bowl (ala Temple this year) enough to bring him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsfan97 Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 88 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 There needs to be real improvement to justify keeping him past next year. 6 wins including some quality wins would be enough in my opinion. While we won more games this year, the teams we beat rank #118, #124, and #125 (+ 1 FCS school) in the final power rankings. We finished ranked #114. I think 10 or so FCS schools could have beaten us this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smazza Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 9,898 Content Count: 66,091 Reputation: 2,434 Days Won: 172 Joined: 01/01/2001 Share Posted December 18, 2014 There needs to be real improvement to justify keeping him past next year. 6 wins including some quality wins would be enough in my opinion. While we won more games this year, the teams we beat rank #118, #124, and #125 (+ 1 FCS school) in the final power rankings. We finished ranked #114. I think 10 or so FCS schools could have beaten us this year. this seems fair i am convinced allen will be at least interim coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted December 18, 2014 All I need is wins, wins, wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Dozer Posted December 18, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 343 Content Count: 13,697 Reputation: 2,041 Days Won: 45 Joined: 09/04/2006 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Bowl game or bust. In a post season interview Harlan said "USF too special to not make a bowl game" . That pretty much spells out what the expectations are for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is 6 wins but no bowl (ala Temple this year) enough to bring him back? It might be... depending on how the 6 losses were (close or blowouts, which teams, etc)... and it probably really depends on the attendance... that affects USF as much as anything... we need to get people to buy tickets and make donations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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