JTrue Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted August 26, 2014 What shenanigans are you trying to pull here, buddy? What on earth are you talking about? Mike White says that he was being recruited under Holtz. I provided a link to direct quotes from White. What do you mean, shenanigans? Just go with it, Shadow. Consider whom you're talking to. He hasn't responded again while responding in other threads. I guess I provided him information he was previously unaware of. Shadow, what I was joking about (and you didn't pick up on) is that every time Mike White gets brought up, one side or the other (CWT v. Holtz) claims him as their recruit and is adamant that either Holtz did all the heavy lifting and CWT vutltured the signing or CWT is the savior and Holtz could never bring in a QB. This is probably the 5th time we've circled this topic. One of the threads actually devolved into a debate about the definition of a "recruit" and since White signed with CWT, he can not be declared a recruit of Holtz. And as for my responding in other threads before this one, I don't make a list by time and respond to them in a queue. Also, this is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Kinda sorry I brought the Holtz recruits up but sometimes the talk gets a little overboard on 'what he did to the team'. He's attracted quality recruits to the program and is still doing it at LaTech, he just got two Big 10 transfers. Maybe this level was above his coaching and everyone isn't cut out for this level. He's gone, he's left some quality players. Now CWT on paper has done great and let's hope he's going to get the program back in the news. Go BULLS! I agree. I'm glad he's gone and Taggart is here. But Holtz wasn't that bad, he took over a team that was divided and he wasn't able to mend it. Probably because he chose to try and patch things together instead of tear it down like CWT did. For all the excitement, the reality is that CWT hasn't done anything yet. Hopefully we'll see things turn around this year in a big way. The seeds seem to be in place but it needs to translate to the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted August 26, 2014 What shenanigans are you trying to pull here, buddy? What on earth are you talking about? Mike White says that he was being recruited under Holtz. I provided a link to direct quotes from White. What do you mean, shenanigans? Just go with it, Shadow. Consider whom you're talking to. He hasn't responded again while responding in other threads. I guess I provided him information he was previously unaware of. Shadow, what I was joking about (and you didn't pick up on) is that every time Mike White gets brought up, one side or the other (CWT v. Holtz) claims him as their recruit and is adamant that either Holtz did all the heavy lifting and CWT vutltured the signing or CWT is the savior and Holtz could never bring in a QB. This is probably the 5th time we've circled this topic. One of the threads actually devolved into a debate about the definition of a "recruit" and since White signed with CWT, he can not be declared a recruit of Holtz. And as for my responding in other threads before this one, I don't make a list by time and respond to them in a queue. Also, this is retarded. You stated that Holtz "did not recruit White". Mike White disagrees. Not sure why you are arguing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. 2) His selection of DCs FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great 8 Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 69 Content Count: 3,802 Reputation: 372 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/21/2009 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. 2) His selection of DCs FIFY You contributed to a fix. It's hardly fixed. If the pro/con list was 5-2 Skip would still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcj Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 18 Content Count: 8,878 Reputation: 1,266 Days Won: 28 Joined: 07/12/2013 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. 2) His selection of DCs FIFY You contributed to a fix. It's hardly fixed. If the pro/con list was 5-2 Skip would still be here. You're missing the point. If True weighted the list, I'm pretty sure his #1 dislike would outweigh all 5 pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. 2) His selection of DCs FIFY You contributed to a fix. It's hardly fixed. If the pro/con list was 5-2 Skip would still be here. Nah. The selection of Cosh was epic in disastrous proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JupiterBull Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 85 Content Count: 5,431 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 16 Joined: 02/08/2009 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Things I liked about Skip Holtz: 1) His recruiting was no where near as bad as people say it is. 2) He seemed like a nice guy. 3) The white windbreaker looked nice and I bought one. 4) Coach Lou talking about USF. 5) APR went up. Things I did not like about Skip Holtz: 1) His ability to coach football at USF. 2) His selection of DCs 3) Inability to win 4) Inability to grab a great QB FIFY...FIFY2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted August 26, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,424 Reputation: 710 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted August 26, 2014 What are we arguing here? Taggart picked up Flowers... and we need stronger QB play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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