Who'sYourData? Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted July 29, 2014 We really don't need an IPF - we've always been able to adjust on the fly (maybe that was just Leavitt's ability to figure things like this out). However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. However, if he learns how to win in Tampa, I'm pretty sure there will be money found to fix those substandard facilities. If he doesn't win, money will be found and used to pay off the remainder of his contract when a new coach comes in to replace him. Start a 10-year plan to build a new stadium. The money will be there faster than 10-years IMO. I can't remember CWT complaining about substandard facilities. Do you have an article you could link? CWT is wisely not saying this publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted July 29, 2014 However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. Just curious, have you been to both schools' facilities? I also would like to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 121 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted July 29, 2014 However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. Just curious, have you been to both schools' facilities? I also would like to know. WKU's football facilities are definitely nicer. Locker rooms, training rooms, meeting rooms, equipment rooms, weight room. Everything looks top shelf where USF's looks very vanilla and Room's To Go-ish. The interior of the Lee Roy Selmon building was done on the cheap and it looks it. It's much better than they had previously but it's no where near where it needs to be. Based on recent results though, you can't justify sinking more money into the facilities. Want better Willie, EARN IT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyBull Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 44 Content Count: 1,705 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 3 Joined: 01/25/2013 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. Just curious, have you been to both schools' facilities? I also would like to know. WKU's football facilities are definitely nicer. Locker rooms, training rooms, meeting rooms, equipment rooms, weight room. Everything looks top shelf where USF's looks very vanilla and Room's To Go-ish. The interior of the Lee Roy Selmon building was done on the cheap and it looks it. It's much better than they had previously but it's no where near where it needs to be. Based on recent results though, you can't justify sinking more money into the facilities. Want better Willie, EARN IT!! Again? Ugh.. this season can't get here fast enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbryan Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 121 Content Count: 4,259 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/16/2006 Share Posted July 29, 2014 However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. Just curious, have you been to both schools' facilities? I also would like to know. WKU's football facilities are definitely nicer. Locker rooms, training rooms, meeting rooms, equipment rooms, weight room. Everything looks top shelf where USF's looks very vanilla and Room's To Go-ish. The interior of the Lee Roy Selmon building was done on the cheap and it looks it. It's much better than they had previously but it's no where near where it needs to be. Based on recent results though, you can't justify sinking more money into the facilities. Want better Willie, EARN IT!! Feel free to step up and donate the funds to bring the Selmon building up to your standards! The truth is not negotiable crotchety old-timer, it is what it is. Dullard was NOT a good fundraiser and the football operations building was done on the cheap. Those are immutable facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just announce the fund raising effort. If it takes 10 years, so be it but make the announcement now. I just don't see what the harm is. I think the majority of people believe an OCS is in the best interest of the program AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. Make the announcement now and start the effort. Just announce the fund raising effort. If it takes 10 years, so be it but make the announcement now. I just don't see what the harm is. I think the majority of people believe an OCS is in the best interest of the program AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. Make the announcement now and start the effort. I would imagine that the powers-to-be have done their homework, and there just isn't enough backing from big donors to kickstart the effort at this time. Starting a major fund raising campaign that only draws miniscule amounts would be downright embarrassing. Based on what Harlan said at Capogna's, I don't think you're that far off on your assessment, Ned. Before we even start thinking of an OCS, the big donors have to get onboard and see the need for an OCS. The big donors don't seem to be there yet and seem to like playing at Ray Jay. Honestly, I think we need to do a better job of retaining season ticket holders for a few seasons before we even start going down the OCS rabbit hole, but that's just me. We need a more consistent fan base to merit this type of an investment. For this reason, I voted IPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sheriff Posted August 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 721 Content Count: 6,754 Reputation: 806 Days Won: 19 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You won't see those comments online, but they have been said and communicated back to me during biweekly conversations concerning the affairs of the program. There's been a recent surge by both the current coaching staff and certain former players (not the usual players that have had been associated with previous coaches) to get former players more involved with the program. I wish I could say the enthusiasm has been all positive - there's been a lot of butting heads internally, but at least both groups are trying to find some common ground. I am amazed how political things are based on the conversation that gets relayed to me (and I wish I could be in Tampa to have more of a voice - I've grown up the last couple of years although I still have my moments). We'll see where things go I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 601 Content Count: 16,340 Reputation: 2,869 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 1, 2014 However, Willie has voiced his displeasure with the current facilities multiple times saying they are substandard when compared to WKU (to both the administration and to former players). I don't agree with him. Just curious, have you been to both schools' facilities? I also would like to know. WKU's football facilities are definitely nicer. Locker rooms, training rooms, meeting rooms, equipment rooms, weight room. Everything looks top shelf where USF's looks very vanilla and Room's To Go-ish. The interior of the Lee Roy Selmon building was done on the cheap and it looks it. It's much better than they had previously but it's no where near where it needs to be. Based on recent results though, you can't justify sinking more money into the facilities. Want better Willie, EARN IT!! To be fair. WKU has way more championships in football than USF. They have more support. They been around longer. They have more tradition. It is not far to compare USF to WKU. We are just not there yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted August 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 601 Content Count: 16,340 Reputation: 2,869 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You won't see those comments online, but they have been said and communicated back to me during biweekly conversations concerning the affairs of the program. There's been a recent surge by both the current coaching staff and certain former players (not the usual players that have had been associated with previous coaches) to get former players more involved with the program. I wish I could say the enthusiasm has been all positive - there's been a lot of butting heads internally, but at least both groups are trying to find some common ground. I am amazed how political things are based on the conversation that gets relayed to me (and I wish I could be in Tampa to have more of a voice - I've grown up the last couple of years although I still have my moments). We'll see where things go I suppose. This is why Leavitt is a genius and it was a **** shame that he was fired over BS!!!! USF may never get to that level again. Seriously. At least we got to see the good ole days of USF football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmhatter Posted August 1, 2014 Group: Member Topic Count: 576 Content Count: 8,174 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 6 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted August 1, 2014 why can't we get back to being a bowl team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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