"It's Easier Now" - Aresco

[Brad]

 

Big 12 14 or 16 trumps AAC every minute of every day.

 

 

Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to road trips to the rural townships of Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas. Yowza!

 

There's no comparison in terms of destination cities.

 

AAC >>>>> B12

 

The only B12 city worth seeing is Austin. Not to mention the insane driving times for most of our fans.

 

 

Ames, Iowa    59,042

Austin, Texas    820,611

Fort Worth, Texas    758,738

Lawrence, Kansas    88,727

Lubbock, Texas    233,740

Manhattan, Kansas    52,281

Morgantown, West Virginia    30,293

Norman, Oklahoma    113,273

Stillwater, Oklahoma    46,048

Waco, Texas    126,697

Annapolis, Maryland    38,394

Cincinnati, Ohio    296,223

Dallas, Texas    1,197,816

Greenville, North Carolina    86,017

Houston, Texas    2,099,451

Memphis, Tennessee    662,897

New Orleans, Louisiana    360,740

Orlando, Florida    249,562

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania    1,526,006

Storrs, Connecticut    15,344

Tampa, Florida    335,709

Tulsa, Oklahoma    396,466

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Athletic_Conference

 

 

You may be correct as far as best cities to travel too.  But I would sacrifice that for a seat at the table, even if it meant having to travel to Stillwater.

[GaUSFBull]

Very few, if any, of the AAC schools are being complacent.  They are all working to move up, and eventually there will be room.

 

Cincy and ECU are the only ones stupid enough to make their efforts public.

Has ECU made a public campaign to get out of the AAC? I remember them doing that to leave CUSA to come to the BE, but don't remember the effort to leave our conference.

[Sellular1]

Slick: "Turning tail,and running is how USF got to where it's at now. I am still waiting to see a program that's left the Big East truly succeed too. It seems that more money doesn't mean more success. Going back to when BC, VT and UM left, have they done so much better than when in the Big East? What about WVU or Pitt?"

 

Whether it equals success or not, more money still wins out.

 

Wins out on what?  A good friend is a WVU fan and he hates that they are in the Big 12.  Hard to get to away games, no rivalries in conference.  So who wins?  The fans?  Don't think so.  The bottom line? Maybe but the bottom line has no heart.  Fans do. 

 

I would rather we stay in the AAC than switch to the Big 12.  Does that mean I wouldn't try to get to the away games?  No, but East Carolina and Tulane are easier for me to get to than most of the Big 12 teams.  Tulsa not so much so this isn't perfect.  But once we get into Divsion play in 2015 we'll have a better idea if Tulsa would be an every two year deal.

You would RATHER be in the AAC than the B12? REALLY?

 

 

He's not alone. I would too.

 

Of course, I'd rather be in the ACC than either, but if I had my druthers (and money was more or less equal) my conference preference would be

 

 

1. ACC

2. SEC

3. AAC

4. B10

5. B12

6. anybody else.

That makes no sense because the money IS NOT EQUAL. It's $20 million more per team in the Big12. If it were equal and access to bowl games was equal we would all rather stay in the AAC because the teams are crappier and we could win easier.

[NewEnglandBull]

Schools can make all the racket they want about about leaving. No one is going anywhere for at least 5 years.

[Guest PCBull14]

Schools can make all the racket they want about about leaving. No one is going anywhere for at least 5 years.

 

I have no inside sources, but I think something big is going to happening right after the Men's and Women's basketball championships. All signs point to the Big 12 getting 12 or 14 and creating divisions, reworking their TV deal to equalize payouts to match todays numbers, and then everything stands still for about 5-10 years. Without a championship game they are done and are offically at the bottom of the power five. Unless they have a team run the table they can kiss any shot of a playoff goodbye and they know this. Also this breaking off of the P5 teams. That is not happening no matter how much they want it.

 

ESPN can run stories for days it ain't happening. That moster already destroyed college athletics as we know it and someone needs to make them pay. These other sports broadcasting companies need to grow a pair and challenge them.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

Schools can make all the racket they want about about leaving. No one is going anywhere for at least 5 years.

 

I have no inside sources, but I think something big is going to happening right after the Men's and Women's basketball championships. All signs point to the Big 12 getting 12 or 14 and creating divisions, reworking their TV deal to equalize payouts to match todays numbers, and then everything stands still for about 5-10 years. Without a championship game they are done and are offically at the bottom of the power five. Unless they have a team run the table they can kiss any shot of a playoff goodbye and they know this. Also this breaking off of the P5 teams. That is not happening no matter how much they want it.

 

ESPN can run stories for days it ain't happening. That moster already destroyed college athletics as we know it and someone needs to make them pay. These other sports broadcasting companies need to grow a pair and challenge them.

 

 

Agreed.  Big 12 will expand.

[NewEnglandBull]

Why would they expand and lose $ per school? Networks are not going to pay more just because a conference adds teams (none who are attractive enough to increase payouts). In terms of the championship game, it makes more sense to wait and see if it is an issue first. I disagree they would have to go undefeated to be in the top 4...at least not every year. Further. Because the Big Big XII is top heavy going 12-0 some years is not out of the question. Unless it is mandated that a championship game is needed, the Big XII would be foolish to add teams and lose $. Better to wait and see if it is an issue first.

Edited February 16, 2014 by NewEnglandBull

[aroth]

Why would they expand and lose $ per school. Networks are not going to pay more just because teams (none who are attractive enough to increase payouts). In terms of the championship game, it makes more sense to wait and see if it is an issue first. Unless it is mandated that a championship game is needed, the Big XII would be foolish to add teams. They will wait and see if it is an issue first.

 

Among the factors that the committee will weigh are strength of schedule, conference championships, team records, and head-to-head results, plus other considerations such as injuries and weather.

 

Obviously it isn't the only factor, but I'm guessing it will be weighed heavily. 

Edited February 16, 2014 by aroth

[NewEnglandBull]

Why would they expand and lose $ per school? Networks are not going to pay more just because a conference adds teams (none who are attractive enough to increase payouts). In terms of the championship game, it makes more sense to wait and see if it is an issue first. I disagree they would have to go undefeated to be in the top 4...at least not every year. Further. Because the Big Big XII is top heavy going 12-0 some years is not out of the question. Unless it is mandated that a championship game is needed, the Big XII would be foolish to add teams and lose $. Better to wait and see if it is an issue first.

Edited post

[slick1ru2]

Schools can make all the racket they want about about leaving. No one is going anywhere for at least 5 years.

 

I have no inside sources, but I think something big is going to happening right after the Men's and Women's basketball championships. All signs point to the Big 12 getting 12 or 14 and creating divisions...