slick1ru2 Posted December 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 College coaches are not basing scholarship offers solely on camps. Or even primarily. Kid has huge statistics at a high level in Georgia but he can't get offered because he performed poorly at some 7-on-7 flag football event last summer? Not likely at all. Were you there? If not, its not likely at all you'd know what's going on. He played 2 more game after this article. He's 21-4 in two seasons (not a full season last year) http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24099957 I don't have to be there to realize that 125 D-1 college coaching staffs don't solely rely on camps. Especially when the vast majority of them do not see those camps. Unless a kid comes to a specific school's camps most of the private 7-on-7 tournaments are off limits to college coaches. Also, Occam's razor says it is more likely that the kid just doesn't have it as opposed to every staff in America is missing on him.Its a Well it seems that more and more don't recruit solely off game play either. They want to see recruits do good in BOTH camps and games. As Al Golden at Miami said last year, it can be the clincher on if an athlete gets an offer or spark interest. So if you weren't at these camps, you have no idea if how he played at camp was the reason teams are now not interested or were and didn't offer. Occam's razor says, if you weren't there you don't know. Anyway, he got his first offer last week, along with one of his teammates, to a JUCO D1 team. They were top 10 in 2011, 8 winning seasons in a row, won their conference 4 of the last 6 years and had 8 students sign letters of intent to D1 or D1aa schools for last year. If he goes that route, I expect we'll be hearing more in a couple of years. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college-football-summer-camps-become-a-new-recruit/nPj7B/ Summer camps have progressively become an important part of recruiting in college football. With NCAA rules increasingly limiting the contact college coaches can have with recruits, camps have become as much a part of the recruiting game as home visits. Of the 23 players the Gators signed last February, each attended camp in Gainesville. Golden said he won’t offer a scholarship to a prospect solely off a summer camp. But he added that an athlete’s performance could be the clincher that produces an offer. Or it can be the start of UM’s interest in a player. so which college camps has ironside gone to? Because from that article, it was the camp at that particular college, not some random camp. Don't know but being that his coach said he didn't do well, I'm taking his word that it dissuaded college scouts. He did say he didn't play a full season as a Junior so didn't get a lot of looks, or probably invites either and that probably had some impact on his performance too last summer. This coach had 3 players sign LOI, 2 to SEC teams last year alone. http://www.highschoolfootballamerica.com/socal-fox-sports-la/coach-of-the-week/entry/2013-national-letter-of-intent-signing-day-georgia-high-schools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted December 12, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted December 12, 2013 College coaches are not basing scholarship offers solely on camps. Or even primarily. Kid has huge statistics at a high level in Georgia but he can't get offered because he performed poorly at some 7-on-7 flag football event last summer? Not likely at all. Were you there? If not, its not likely at all you'd know what's going on. He played 2 more game after this article. He's 21-4 in two seasons (not a full season last year)http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24099957 I don't have to be there to realize that 125 D-1 college coaching staffs don't solely rely on camps. Especially when the vast majority of them do not see those camps. Unless a kid comes to a specific school's camps most of the private 7-on-7 tournaments are off limits to college coaches. Also, Occam's razor says it is more likely that the kid just doesn't have it as opposed to every staff in America is missing on him.Its a Well it seems that more and more don't recruit solely off game play either. They want to see recruits do good in BOTH camps and games. As Al Golden at Miami said last year, it can be the clincher on if an athlete gets an offer or spark interest. So if you weren't at these camps, you have no idea if how he played at camp was the reason teams are now not interested or were and didn't offer. Occam's razor says, if you weren't there you don't know. Anyway, he got his first offer last week, along with one of his teammates, to a JUCO D1 team. They were top 10 in 2011, 8 winning seasons in a row, won their conference 4 of the last 6 years and had 8 students sign letters of intent to D1 or D1aa schools for last year. If he goes that route, I expect we'll be hearing more in a couple of years.http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college-football-summer-camps-become-a-new-recruit/nPj7B/ Summer camps have progressively become an important part of recruiting in college football. With NCAA rules increasingly limiting the contact college coaches can have with recruits, camps have become as much a part of the recruiting game as home visits.Of the 23 players the Gators signed last February, each attended camp in Gainesville. Golden said he won’t offer a scholarship to a prospect solely off a summer camp. But he added that an athlete’s performance could be the clincher that produces an offer. Or it can be the start of UM’s interest in a player. Glad your nephew got an offer. Hopefully it works out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted December 14, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted December 14, 2013 College coaches are not basing scholarship offers solely on camps. Or even primarily. Kid has huge statistics at a high level in Georgia but he can't get offered because he performed poorly at some 7-on-7 flag football event last summer? Not likely at all. Were you there? If not, its not likely at all you'd know what's going on. He played 2 more game after this article. He's 21-4 in two seasons (not a full season last year) http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24099957 I don't have to be there to realize that 125 D-1 college coaching staffs don't solely rely on camps. Especially when the vast majority of them do not see those camps. Unless a kid comes to a specific school's camps most of the private 7-on-7 tournaments are off limits to college coaches. Also, Occam's razor says it is more likely that the kid just doesn't have it as opposed to every staff in America is missing on him.Its a Well it seems that more and more don't recruit solely off game play either. They want to see recruits do good in BOTH camps and games. As Al Golden at Miami said last year, it can be the clincher on if an athlete gets an offer or spark interest. So if you weren't at these camps, you have no idea if how he played at camp was the reason teams are now not interested or were and didn't offer. Occam's razor says, if you weren't there you don't know. Anyway, he got his first offer last week, along with one of his teammates, to a JUCO D1 team. They were top 10 in 2011, 8 winning seasons in a row, won their conference 4 of the last 6 years and had 8 students sign letters of intent to D1 or D1aa schools for last year. If he goes that route, I expect we'll be hearing more in a couple of years. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college-football-summer-camps-become-a-new-recruit/nPj7B/ Summer camps have progressively become an important part of recruiting in college football. With NCAA rules increasingly limiting the contact college coaches can have with recruits, camps have become as much a part of the recruiting game as home visits. Of the 23 players the Gators signed last February, each attended camp in Gainesville. Golden said he won’t offer a scholarship to a prospect solely off a summer camp. But he added that an athlete’s performance could be the clincher that produces an offer. Or it can be the start of UM’s interest in a player. so which college camps has ironside gone to? Because from that article, it was the camp at that particular college, not some random camp. Are you kidding me? D1 Football players don't do G-Rated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 14, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 14, 2013 College coaches are not basing scholarship offers solely on camps. Or even primarily. Kid has huge statistics at a high level in Georgia but he can't get offered because he performed poorly at some 7-on-7 flag football event last summer? Not likely at all. Were you there? If not, its not likely at all you'd know what's going on. He played 2 more game after this article. He's 21-4 in two seasons (not a full season last year) http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24099957 I don't have to be there to realize that 125 D-1 college coaching staffs don't solely rely on camps. Especially when the vast majority of them do not see those camps. Unless a kid comes to a specific school's camps most of the private 7-on-7 tournaments are off limits to college coaches. Also, Occam's razor says it is more likely that the kid just doesn't have it as opposed to every staff in America is missing on him.Its a Well it seems that more and more don't recruit solely off game play either. They want to see recruits do good in BOTH camps and games. As Al Golden at Miami said last year, it can be the clincher on if an athlete gets an offer or spark interest. So if you weren't at these camps, you have no idea if how he played at camp was the reason teams are now not interested or were and didn't offer. Occam's razor says, if you weren't there you don't know. Anyway, he got his first offer last week, along with one of his teammates, to a JUCO D1 team. They were top 10 in 2011, 8 winning seasons in a row, won their conference 4 of the last 6 years and had 8 students sign letters of intent to D1 or D1aa schools for last year. If he goes that route, I expect we'll be hearing more in a couple of years. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college-football-summer-camps-become-a-new-recruit/nPj7B/ Summer camps have progressively become an important part of recruiting in college football. With NCAA rules increasingly limiting the contact college coaches can have with recruits, camps have become as much a part of the recruiting game as home visits. Of the 23 players the Gators signed last February, each attended camp in Gainesville. Golden said he won’t offer a scholarship to a prospect solely off a summer camp. But he added that an athlete’s performance could be the clincher that produces an offer. Or it can be the start of UM’s interest in a player. so which college camps has ironside gone to? Because from that article, it was the camp at that particular college, not some random camp. Are you kidding me? D1 Football players don't do G-Rated... Exactly why he went to Camp Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted December 14, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted December 14, 2013 College coaches are not basing scholarship offers solely on camps. Or even primarily. Kid has huge statistics at a high level in Georgia but he can't get offered because he performed poorly at some 7-on-7 flag football event last summer? Not likely at all. Were you there? If not, its not likely at all you'd know what's going on. He played 2 more game after this article. He's 21-4 in two seasons (not a full season last year) http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24099957 I don't have to be there to realize that 125 D-1 college coaching staffs don't solely rely on camps. Especially when the vast majority of them do not see those camps. Unless a kid comes to a specific school's camps most of the private 7-on-7 tournaments are off limits to college coaches. Also, Occam's razor says it is more likely that the kid just doesn't have it as opposed to every staff in America is missing on him.Its a Well it seems that more and more don't recruit solely off game play either. They want to see recruits do good in BOTH camps and games. As Al Golden at Miami said last year, it can be the clincher on if an athlete gets an offer or spark interest. So if you weren't at these camps, you have no idea if how he played at camp was the reason teams are now not interested or were and didn't offer. Occam's razor says, if you weren't there you don't know. Anyway, he got his first offer last week, along with one of his teammates, to a JUCO D1 team. They were top 10 in 2011, 8 winning seasons in a row, won their conference 4 of the last 6 years and had 8 students sign letters of intent to D1 or D1aa schools for last year. If he goes that route, I expect we'll be hearing more in a couple of years. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/college-football-summer-camps-become-a-new-recruit/nPj7B/ Summer camps have progressively become an important part of recruiting in college football. With NCAA rules increasingly limiting the contact college coaches can have with recruits, camps have become as much a part of the recruiting game as home visits. Of the 23 players the Gators signed last February, each attended camp in Gainesville. Golden said he won’t offer a scholarship to a prospect solely off a summer camp. But he added that an athlete’s performance could be the clincher that produces an offer. Or it can be the start of UM’s interest in a player. so which college camps has ironside gone to? Because from that article, it was the camp at that particular college, not some random camp. Are you kidding me? D1 Football players don't do G-Rated... Exactly why he went to Camp Rock. Now, THAT's funny!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted December 17, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 He'll play in the Dec 21 County Senior Bowl. I expect scouts will be in attendance as many players from several top 10 teams will be playing. http://www.americanyouthcouncil.com/page/show/251691-cobb-all-star-senior-bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted December 17, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 553 Content Count: 14,405 Reputation: 434 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 He'll play in the Dec 21 County Senior Bowl. Invited scouts will be in attendance as many players from several state top 10 teams will be playing. They've been holding it since 2008 and of those that played, over 600 played in college, many in the NFL. http://www.americanyouthcouncil.com/page/show/251691-cobb-all-star-senior-bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 17, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) He'll play in the Dec 21 County Senior Bowl. Invited scouts will be in attendance as many players from several state top 10 teams will be playing. They've been holding it since 2008 and of those that played, over 600 played in college, many in the NFL. http://www.americanyouthcouncil.com/page/show/251691-cobb-all-star-senior-bowl How is that even possible? 130 kids in the game x 5 years = 650 kids You're telling me that literally EVERY kid in that game goes on to play college football? Edited December 17, 2013 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted December 17, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted December 17, 2013 He'll play in the Dec 21 County Senior Bowl. Invited scouts will be in attendance as many players from several state top 10 teams will be playing. They've been holding it since 2008 and of those that played, over 600 played in college, many in the NFL. http://www.americanyouthcouncil.com/page/show/251691-cobb-all-star-senior-bowl How is that even possible? 130 kids in the game x 5 years = 650 kids You're telling me that literally EVERY kid in that game goes on to play college football? It is quite possible. Shocking though it may seem, Division I represents only a small fraction of all college football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted December 17, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) He'll play in the Dec 21 County Senior Bowl. Invited scouts will be in attendance as many players from several state top 10 teams will be playing. They've been holding it since 2008 and of those that played, over 600 played in college, many in the NFL. http://www.americanyouthcouncil.com/page/show/251691-cobb-all-star-senior-bowl How is that even possible? 130 kids in the game x 5 years = 650 kids You're telling me that literally EVERY kid in that game goes on to play college football? It is quite possible. Shocking though it may seem, Division I represents only a small fraction of all college football players. I played baseball in Broward County, which churns out college baseball players by the truckload, and even my county senior All-Star game didn't produce collegiate players at the same rate Cobb County does football players. And thats factoring in Broward is the 5th largest school district in the country and our rosters for the game were about 25 players, so 50 total. If that number is accurate, it must have the highest per capita rate of players in the nation. Edited December 17, 2013 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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