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Legitimate list of Positives and Negatives for Holtz

Positives:

Beat Miami (2010)

Beat Notre Dame (2011)

Much higher team GPA

got the team (temporarily) ranked (2011)

Beat a BCS Conference team in a Bowl Game (2010)

(now my brain is stumped)

Negatives:

No Bowl games (2011) (2012)

15-21 overall record (assuming loss vs PITT)

9-11 @ Home (assuming loss vs PITT)

6-10 on the road

5-16 in the Big East Conference (assuming loss vs PITT)

Team has not progressed but regressed

Fans are not going to games

The team appears to continually make the same mistakes again and again

I had to look again at the BE record...5-16 and just said :wtf:

based on this info I just can't see keeping Holtz another year....what sucked the most this year is...I was not pissed Friday night...not suprised...not sad...just at a loss for words...except for :wtf:

If anybody else has an item for EITHER list that is not there please list and discuss

and sorry that i might be :icon_deadhorse:

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Positive:

Dad won a MNC

Negative:

Worst single season record in team history

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On the negative side, the trend is the problem. 5-16 in conference but 2-12 the last 2 seasons. 16-21 overall but 8-16 the last 2 seasons.

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On the negative side, the trend is the problem. 5-16 in conference but 2-12 the last 2 seasons. 16-21 overall but 8-16 the last 2 seasons.

Even worse is 4-15 the last 19 games (likely to be 4-16 after the Pitt game). No words for such a horrible run.

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His positives were toward the beginning. The last 1 2/3 years have been abysmal. It amazes me that just last year, we beat Notre Dame. Now it seems so long ago.

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Notre dame beat itself.

Phrases like "I wish I had an excuse" after Miami game.

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Negatives:

Between year 2 and year 3 under his leadership:

Went more than 13 months without a home win against FBS opponents

Longest losing streak in team history

Worst record in team history

Most losses in 1 year in team history

3 of 4 worst defensive performances in team history

Longest streak of quarters without a TD in team history

Only 2 INTs this year

Consistently losing games after holding 4th quarter lead.

Continued poor game management

Continued poor clock management

Continued horrible special teams performance.

Nothing points to signs of a turnaround.

Positives:

He is a nice guy.

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Negatives:

Between year 2 and year 3 under his leadership:

Went more than 13 months without a home win against FBS opponents

Longest losing streak in team history

Worst record in team history

Most losses in 1 year in team history

3 of 4 worst defensive performances in team history

Longest streak of quarters without a TD in team history

Only 2 INTs this year

Consistently losing games after holding 4th quarter lead.

Continued poor game management

Continued poor clock management

Continued horrible special teams performance.

Nothing points to signs of a turnaround.

Positives:

He is a nice guy.

+1

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ND is 3 qts away from playing in the BCS NC game, We are starring at a 3 win season. Skip needs to go

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