Ghostofbigworm

3 straight 8 win seasons. 3 straight bowl games. yes he was .500 in conference but he was just starting to turn that program around. as for the academic issues, it has been said multiple times that he was cleared of any wrong doing by the ncaa. he isn't guilty of anything. he was fired at UNC so the school could save face, not because he did anything wrong. he recruited a bunch of kids that not only cheated in academics but also accepted illegal benefits from agents. he may have been cleared but he ran a dirty program. no thanks. I may not want altar boys that holtz brought in but i don't want guys who cheat either. by that same notion holtz recruited guys that beat their girlfriends, and stole iphones. how was davis to know what the kids he recruited would do behind his back? unless they were doing the same thing in highschool he would have had no idea they would do it in college. find a person who can predict what 18-22 year olds will do in the future and USF might hire them. that was a transfer and a walk on. he didn't recruit either of them. I get you can't control everybody but i guarantee a program like Stanford will have less player arrests than say UF. it goes to the character of the recruits. He might not have recruited them out of high school but he did recruit them when they decided to transfer or walk on. Holtz could have easily said no to both of them but didn't. Therefore he did allow their services on his team, so he should by your reasoning be held accountable for their actions and be labeled. You can't control what others will do in the future and you can't control them from doing what they want. The UNC debacle was more an institutional problem not a coach problem. NCAA says he's clean and he didn't receive any punishment. UNC just tried to save face and make the mess go away from media scrutiny so they fired him. Their own chancellor even backed up Davis after the firing. Btw, I guess if he was so "tainted" as you claim, USF wouldn't be talking to him but they are. an institutional problem where nearly 40% of the cheaters were football players. almost $30k in illegal gifts. I love how people deflect blame. he ran a dirty program. whether or not he knew. just because usf is supposedly interviewing him doesn't make what happened disappear. I get it's no longer about the student anymore. it's only about the athlete but i don't want our program to become a renagade program like some of the football factories in the past. 10/10 times I'll take the guy looking for a few extra bucks vs the guy that beats on his woman.

I don't remember any NCAA violations under his watch at UL or UA.

Unacceptable. He got his peepee wet with a woman that wasn't his wife. Should have been stoned to death in Razorback Stadium. His wife should have left him, not his job... And she hasn't even done that yet. She probably wasn't fulfilling her womanly duties at home. Stone her too.

More than likely, I doubt that would happen for at least 2-3 years though. Until then, we could get a good foundation built. And let's say for argument purposes he took us to a 9 or 10 win season. If he does leave, it would not cost us anything more. We would not have to buy out the contract. And then it would be easier to find a good coach with a better record and better prestige. Sure. I mean it worked out perfectly for Louisville and Arkansas, right? Oh, wait... You mean you don't like Bielema? Worked out well for Arkansas. It was Arkansas who chose to fire Petrino so late in the cycle and hand the reigns to an assistant instead of getting a coach. Louisville got Kragthorpe'd, but I think thye're happy with Strong. Petrino's tenures at both schools made both jobs more desirable in the long run. Well technically Smith had already taken over at Weber State, but Arkansas didn't have too much in the way of options given Petrino's impeccable timing. Arkansas could have suspended him a game or two and let him finish the year. They were the ones that sent him packing, not the other way round this time. Unacceptable. He got his peepee wet with a woman that wasn't his wife. Should have been stoned to death in Razorback Stadium.

Integrity from the guy that gave a losing coach an extension so that he could include clauses to line his own pockets and stick USF with the $2.5M bill. Huh? DW wrote his own contract extension? Riiiiiiight. Ok, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure he had no idea about the incentive matching. "Nearing the end of USF's fiscal year, on the same day Genshaft sent Woolard the offer letter, he signed an extension for football coach Skip Holtz, and the next day, for men's basketball coach Stan Heath, with both new deals including upgraded postseason incentives. Genshaft co-signed the extensions on June 25, with Holtz's bonus for winning the Big East doubling to $200,000, and $400,000 for playing in the national title game. Heath, whose previous contract paid him $25,000 for making the NCAA Tournament, now gets $50,000 for that, as well as an additional $25,000 for each NCAA Tournament win." Because its totally never heard of to have incentives to ADs? I don't see any incentives for Woolard if the coaching staff he hires loses. What are you freaking talking about? They raised Woolard's incentives? Well he has to hire a winning coaching staff right? From last October. http://content.usato.../1#.UL1oF4Y4m5Q As a AD, it gives the impression of impropriety to extent a losing coach's contract, giving him additional bonus incentives that you are negotiating to receive in your contract as well. I don't have a problem with DW's contract, or Heath's renewal. There was no reason to extend Holtz at that time. That article was written last October. Its a trend in college football to give ADs incentives and at the moment, the amounts are increasin. If anything the incentives in DW's contract facilitated Holtz's departure. Woolard has a vested interest in success, there is noting wrong at all with increasing both last year either. The reasons were laid out why Holtz were given an extension, both by Woolard and the chairman of the trustees. If USF was going to a BCS game this season, those incentives would be the absolute last thing in the world you'd be complaining about. Right? Anyone that understands the game of football knew that we were going to be bad this year. Holtz was a bad hire and an even worse extension. What exactly did he show last year that required an extension? That he could have players get better grades? That he could get sports writers to drop his name in coaching search articles? On topic: Petrino is the best football mind/between the lines coach we have a shot at. No brainer to attempt to get him.

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Integrity from the guy that gave a losing coach an extension so that he could include clauses to line his own pockets and stick USF with the $2.5M bill. Huh? DW wrote his own contract extension? Riiiiiiight. Ok, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure he had no idea about the incentive matching. "Nearing the end of USF's fiscal year, on the same day Genshaft sent Woolard the offer letter, he signed an extension for football coach Skip Holtz, and the next day, for men's basketball coach Stan Heath, with both new deals including upgraded postseason incentives. Genshaft co-signed the extensions on June 25, with Holtz's bonus for winning the Big East doubling to $200,000, and $400,000 for playing in the national title game. Heath, whose previous contract paid him $25,000 for making the NCAA Tournament, now gets $50,000 for that, as well as an additional $25,000 for each NCAA Tournament win." Because its totally never heard of to have incentives to ADs? I don't see any incentives for Woolard if the coaching staff he hires loses. What are you freaking talking about? They raised Woolard's incentives? Well he has to hire a winning coaching staff right? From last October. http://content.usato.../1#.UL1oF4Y4m5Q As a AD, it gives the impression of impropriety to extent a losing coach's contract, giving him additional bonus incentives that you are negotiating to receive in your contract as well. I don't have a problem with DW's contract, or Heath's renewal. There was no reason to extend Holtz at that time.

Integrity from the guy that gave a losing coach an extension so that he could include clauses to line his own pockets and stick USF with the $2.5M bill. Huh? DW wrote his own contract extension? Riiiiiiight. Ok, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure he had no idea about the incentive matching. "Nearing the end of USF's fiscal year, on the same day Genshaft sent Woolard the offer letter, he signed an extension for football coach Skip Holtz, and the next day, for men's basketball coach Stan Heath, with both new deals including upgraded postseason incentives. Genshaft co-signed the extensions on June 25, with Holtz's bonus for winning the Big East doubling to $200,000, and $400,000 for playing in the national title game. Heath, whose previous contract paid him $25,000 for making the NCAA Tournament, now gets $50,000 for that, as well as an additional $25,000 for each NCAA Tournament win."

Integrity from the guy that gave a losing coach an extension so that he could include clauses to line his own pockets and stick USF with the $2.5M bill. There's a difference between integrity and a stupid decision. Let's hope he uses better judgement with this hire than his extension of Holtz. Extending Holtz after a losing season - stupid decision. Giving a coach an unwarranted extension in an attempt to line your own pockets - lack of integrity.

Integrity from the guy that gave a losing coach an extension so that he could include clauses to line his own pockets and stick USF with the $2.5M bill.

Don't get your hopes up. According to this board, our coach has to be one part saint, one part offensive genius, one part mayor, one part slick recruiter, one part professor, and one part family man. Apparently, it takes all this things to tell 18 - 22 year olds how to play a game.

Thanks Dr Lou

Positive: Dad won a MNC Negative: Worst single season record in team history

Replace UCF with USF and your statement is still true.

Skip strikes me more as a George McFly type.