West Virginia files law suit against big east

[South_Florida_Flip]

How much you want to beat that WVU is in the Big East next year?

This bet assumes Mizzou is in SEC in 2012.

WVU will be in the Big East next season. The lawsuit filed is baseless. Funny how WVU portrayed other programs as trying to get out, but didn't say anything about themselves in regard to the ACC and SEC. The fact that they tried to pass of that the Big 12 came to them is a joke. We all know that WVU was working with the Big 12 long before October 27.

Enjoy the next 27 months in the Big East.

[Who'sYourData?]

$- I still assume we pay around the $20 million mark to get out, now we pay this directly to Big East Conference. They then decide what to do with it, and I will tell you, USF wont see any of it.

Any particular reason you say this? Talk about random speculation. Please clarify your reasoning.

Because Marinatto does not give a rats ass about the football side, that buyout money should be directed only towards football because the buyout money is only required for football schools. It will be used for basketball.

Ok, so this is your pure speculation based on your hatred of Marinatto. Thanks, I can ignore this.

I agree the remaining existing football teams should get the money divided up with the notice that they must stay 27 months prior to submitting notice to leave if they choose so. Therefore USF would get $4 mill.

Are you saying that WVU shouldn't have to stay 27 months, but the others should? Really?

No I am saying that if we pay out $20 mil, the five remaining schools Uconn, UC, UL, USF, and Rutgers should split this money up if they agree to stay and agree not to submit leave for "the 27 months" that this money would cover damages for. Therefore if someone turns it down it should split 4 ways and so on. So Basically if only USF thinks they are going to end up in Big East within the next 27 months, these other schools say no to the money and USF its it all from WVU, and the $5 million from Pitt and Cuse should also be done this way.

The lawsuit doesn't mention anything about $20million. What you are really saying is that this lawsuit should be settled for $20mil. I disagree. If WVU had not filed suit, I think WVU could have bought their way out with $20mil. WVU is apparently greedy, and doesn't want to pay that. The Big East could very well decide that because WVU filed suit, they won't let WVU buy their way out. This was a gutsy play by WVU, but it may have been very stupid.

The bad thing for the conference would to let this go to WV courts were we could walk free, and would like Cuse and Pitt do the same.

The bad thing for the conference would be to let WV walk free. This lawsuit looks about 98% against WVU. You do realize that in order for WVU to prevail, there must be no evidence that WV talked to any other conference prior to Pitt and 'Cuse announcing they were leaving. I'd say the likelihood that WVU had no conversations are about zero and less than zero.

On a national level it looks against WVU, but remember the key to this for WV is they prepared the suit, and thus it stays in WV courts, no federal due to WVU being a state agency. You tell me if this comes to a trial a WV court is going to tell WVU that they have to stay and pay?

Wow. You are basically saying that WV courts are corrupt and don't care about the law. I'll bet there are some judges in WV that would strongly disagree with your assessment. By the way, the first thing that the Big East will do is try to move the lawsuit to the location of the Big East headquarters. If this is denied, it is further grounds for appeal.

This lawsuit is about discovery. WV is praying that the Big East has secrets that they don't want to get out, and that those secrets are bigger than the secrets WV is hiding. From what I can tell, WV has the bigger secrets. The BE isn't smart enough or conniving enough to have a lot of big secrets.

Do I think we have skeletons yes, do I think BE has skeletons yes, Turning down the ESPN was huge for us to get out

Good luck with your skeletons.

[jvwvu]

The lawsuit doesn't mention anything about $20million. What you are really saying is that this lawsuit should be settled for $20mil. I disagree. If WVU had not filed suit, I think WVU could have bought their way out with $20mil. WVU is apparently greedy, and doesn't want to pay that. The Big East could very well decide that because WVU filed suit, they won't let WVU buy their way out. This was a gutsy play by WVU, but it may have been very stupid.

All indictations I have recieved is that an option in approximately this amount was already given to Pitt & Cuse to leave now. We have not been given this option and Pitt has supposedly shared this with us. Also BE was working on an agreement with UL to allow them to leave early to Big 12 instead of us.

WVU is also stating since TCU left for $5 million we should too.

WVU is being greedy, BE is taking their stance what that means is it is settled in the middle. What is middle in my opinion around $20 mil, give us that option and we are gone.

Wow. You are basically saying that WV courts are corrupt and don't care about the law. I'll bet there are some judges in WV that would strongly disagree with your assessment. By the way, the first thing that the Big East will do is try to move the lawsuit to the location of the Big East headquarters. If this is denied, it is further grounds for appeal.

Corrupt well that is already being debated here in some trials, if the judge wants to keep their job as an elected official they will fall in line.

This case will be heard in WV, and will stop at State supreme court why, because of precedent, and it just so happens to be RR's old case.

http://law.wvu.edu/r/download/7226

Good luck with your skeletons.

Our skeletons are not as hard to find and worriesome as Big Easts, imo.

The Big East sent out 6 offers yesterday, a 7th will be sent out soon to a football only school to plug into our place. Sadly it will be Villanova as the Big East already offered and was told no by WVU, Pitt, Rutgers, and Cuse.

[Brad]

That if they can't get out of BE, Big 12 can rescind.

If I can find link on phone I will post.

Makes for some interesting discussion perhaps.

[NAM37]

http://blog.newsok.com/berrytramel/2011/11/02/big-12-football-scheduling-mess-could-continue/

Neinas said West Virginia’s invitation to the Big 12 is contingent on the Mountaineers being available for the 2012 season. What? What does that mean? Does that mean if WVU can’t get out of its Big East commitments, the deal is off? Is that why West Virginia spent virtually no time negotiating with the Big East and went straight to a lawsuit? Big East bylaws declare a buyout ($5 million in this case) and a 27-month notification. What does the Big 12 do if West Virginia is handcuffed to the Big East in 2012?

[Southshore26]

I find it interesting that some think that they "can't" get out of the Big East. It's as simple as they don't show up for contests starting July 1. This all comes down to money and alot will change hands.... but WVU will be playing OU and TX in September... not USF and Rutgers... it's that simple.

[2000bull]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-11-02/west-virginia-big-east-invite-contingent-upon-2012-availability

[jvwvu]

It appears this may be the case, also depends on Mizzou situation, therefore as I stated before unless Mizzou is not in SEC next year we will be in Big 12 no matter what.

Don't be mistaken the Big 12 is now going to be pushing this situation along with us, and knew what they were getting into. This is why the suit was placed by us as soon as we could to push it.

Realize SEC wants Mizzou sooner than later, Big needs us sooner than later.

ESPN, FOX wants us in as soon as possible due to TV contacts.

Marinatto's not just fighting us he is fighting the other conferences, also, unless he is going exclusively with NBC the money the Big East Conference is going to get in TV money is going to start dwindling.

[Brad]

WVU could lose Big 12 invitation if it cannot join league by 2012

http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/sports/bob-smiziks-blog/30632-wvu-could-lose-big-12-invitatino-if-it-cannot-join-leagye-by-2012

[Brad]

Yes, they're going. I just hope the BE cleans them out them on the way out. But I doubt it. Marinatto is the handshake guy.