Teddy Bridgewater- QB- Miami Northwestern.

[deters-]

does he fit Holtz's offense? he's listed as a dual threat. I thought Holtz was trying to get away from that. doesn't seem like his offense would fit this kid's strength.

 

I bet Holtz and co. could figure out a way to use what could possibly the highest rated USF recruit ever.  Especially considering our extremely limited options at QB.

they didn't really figure out how to use the rivals #8 rated dual threat from 3 years ago(BJ Daniels) so i'm not sure the #2 rated this year is any better suited to their offense.

Ideally you want a dual threat QB because they are so dangerous when on the field. Holtz always had big mobile QB's with a pocket presence. If BJ was bigger and could stand in the pocket and deliver with accuracy while still being able to run like he does then we would be set at QB, but he can't so gotta find a QB who does both.

Pickney averaged less than 4 carries per game his last year with Holtz.

He averaged a total of 5.8 yards rushing per game.

that's not a dual threat. that's a QB that runs a few times on broken pass plays.

this kids game isn't suited for Holtz's offense. just like carnes last year.

Dual Threat doesn't mean you have to run all the time and because they don't doesn't mean they don't fit Holtz system! It's the threat of the athleticism the QB posses to take off whenever he needs to and gash the defense is what were talking about.

Everyone in the country knows Daniels can take off running gaining huge yards and even though he didn't do it much this year teams still have to game plan for it! Thats the point of a dual threat QB.

Holtz wants a dual threat QB, but also wants them to have the skills to stand in the pocket and deliver like a pro set QB. Bridgewater has this!

no he doesn't want a dual threat. he wants a pro set QB.

sure if he can get Cam Newton he's all over it but these "dual" threat QBs are listed this way because they are usually much better runners than they are passers.

that doesn't fit his system. Carnes last year was a highly rated dual threat. he was a terrible passer and that's why i think Holtz blew him off.

Where have you read that Bridgewater is a horrible passer? If he was a horrible passer he wouldn't be a 5-star; he would be rated similar to what Carnes was rated last year. The threat to run is helpful in any offense. Just because he is athletic, that doesn't mean that he cannot pass.

I have no idea what kind of passer he is. perhaps he is a great passer but generally the great passers are listed as pro style qbs.

Carnes was a rivals 4 star. same as bridgewater. carnes was rated #7 overall. bridgewater is rated #2.

like I said maybe he is the next cam newton. i have no idea. but I do know that holtz's system is not suited for a running qb.

BTW BJ Daniels was a 4 star rated the #8 dual threat the year he came out. he is not suited for Holtz's system at all.

I guess maybe you just don't appreciate the meaning of the word "dual" in the phrase "dual threat" If a quarterback can throw and also run a 4.5, they are going to list him as a dual threat quarterback because he can both throw and run. They won't label him a pro style quarterback if he can run a 4.5.

I don't believe 40 times have anything to do with listing them as a dual threat(rivals has him at 4.6 seconds-not sure how reliable these times are). I believe it has to do with how much they actually run the ball in high school. option quarterbacks(generally terrible passers) are listed as dual threats.

Both Carnes and BJ Daniels were listed as top 8 dual threats and both of them are below average passers.

You obviously don't understand "dual threat".

It just means they can beat you with their legs or arm, nothing more or less. They can fit into a pro or option system if they have the passing skills. So stop saying he doesn't fit the system. If he can run good, pass better, make good decisions and stand in the pocket with accuracy on his throws HE FITS ANY ******* SYSTEM.

btw here is a rivals thing on Bridgewater - "Bridgewater has excellent arm strength, but can also put touch on the ball when needed. He has great pocket presence and the ability to make yards with his feet. He is most dangerous buying time in the pocket while the coverage breaks down."

I understand dual threat.

do you understand the type of system we run? we need a QB that can pass the ball. he doesn't need to be a dual threat. Holtz doesn't run his QBs.

dual threat QBs don't fit every system. not all "dual" threat QBs are great passers.

Idc if he is labeled spread, option, dual threat, pro or the water boy ffs. If he is a great runner, passer, with good decision making I WANT HIM ON MY ******* TEAM! I don't give a **** what system you run, football is ******* football.

[webedembulls]

if 6 spots higher on a national level is much more highly regarded then i guess I agree. BJ daniels was a 4 star. he was timed faster and rated the 5th strongest arm in his class just behind pryor from ohio state.

do you know what kind of decisions bridgewater makes? how accurate he is? I believe he has to learn a new system (one that is not designed to take advantage of his running abilities) as well.

[GaUSFBull]

Any chance the difference you guys are discussing is actually on the other end of the body?

If you are referring to what I think you are, then yes ... we just need a QB with some natural football intelligence - the ability to make reads, check down, throw the ball away when the receivers are covered, not take sacks, etc.  

[HappyHourHero]

:popcorn

[feardabull]

The kid threw 2 INTs all year.  Compared to 22 TDs, or there about even missing two games.  He three for 440+ in his final playoff game and accounted for all four TDs.  Correct me if im wrong, but MNW throws the ball quite a bit. 

On the season he ran for a grand total of 200 yards.  200!!!!  As a "dual-threat" QB, he threw the ball the majority of the time and made plays with his feet when needed.  This kid is a prototypical Skip Holtz QB!!!!  Except he can run if he wants.

[smazza]

we need a qb that can complete a pass

hit the open man

under leavitt's system usf never won anything

they didnt even use grothe properly

[Bull Martin]

The kid threw 2 INTs all year.  Compared to 22 TDs, or there about even missing two games.  He three for 440+ in his final playoff game and accounted for all four TDs.  Correct me if im wrong, but MNW throws the ball quite a bit. 

On the season he ran for a grand total of 200 yards.  200!!!!  As a "dual-threat" QB, he threw the ball the majority of the time and made plays with his feet when needed.  This kid is a prototypical Skip Holtz QB!!!!  Except he can run if he wants.

He'll fit into Skip and Fitch's offense just fine.

[jg233]

Anyone posting on here who thinks that Bridgewater would not fit into Holtz's system has either never seen Bridgewater play or has zero knowledge of football or both...I would tell him he is the starter next year while he is on his visit if he comes to USF.

[Reliable Source]

I am amazed that there are morons on here who wouldn't be doing backfilps if we got Teddy Bridgewater. Geez.

[FazaUSF]

If you read some of his quotes on the recruiting write-ups, it sounds like he deliberately wants to learn to become a better passer... i.e. a better pro-style QB, though not ignoring his running capabilities. That sounds to me like it's a perfect fit for the current USF team/system. I'm ecstatic we're even getting a serious look from the #2 QB/prior UM commit. If we were to land Bridgewater, I think it would be huge for both us and for him; I think he could absolutely be the guy at the helm when Holtz leads us to what we hope are BE championships within several years... and beyond.