Bull Matrix Posted February 9 Group: Member Topic Count: 602 Content Count: 16,374 Reputation: 2,890 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted February 9 Imagine if Placer really started getting things going down the stretch this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monktified Posted February 9 Group: Member Topic Count: 20 Content Count: 170 Reputation: 90 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2014 Share Posted February 9 IMO when Placer is in the game I feel like it is a liability on defense and he seems to be a step slow. Maybe he is still tentative with his hamstring, but I much rather have Reid out there and Placer should just be spotting up for 3's. He is a great teammate though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted February 9 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,746 Content Count: 37,628 Reputation: 2,347 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted February 9 Major Improvement !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted February 9 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,471 Reputation: 1,788 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted February 9 On 2/7/2024 at 5:41 PM, flsportsfan83 said: Did not look it up but assume its our first winning conference record since 2012. We also have already secured a winning season. We can't finish worse than 16-15 (even if we lose out and get bounced in our first tourney game) You are correct. This could also have the most wins ever in conference play and have the best overall record... and the chance to finish as regular season champions for the first time ever. (Best conference finish ever was 2nd, which happened a few times.) USF is in the 48th season playing basketball in a conference... there have been just 8 winning seasons. Complete list of USF basketball seasons with conference records above .500 (there have been 3 seasons at .500 in conference play)... in all but one season, the Bulls went to the NCAA or NIT. 2011-12 - 12-6 in Big East [Stan Heath] (this is also the most wins and best overall record .667) -- NCAAT 2000-01 - 9-7 in C-USA [Seth Greenberg] -- NIT 1991-92 - 7-5 in Metro [Bobby Paschal] -- NCAAT 1990-91 - 8-6 in Sun Belt [Bobby Paschal] -- NIT 1989-90 - 9-5 in Sun Belt [Bobby Paschal] -- NCAAT 1983-84 - 9-5 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] 1982-83 - 8-6 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] -- NIT 1980-81 - 8-5 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] -- NIT Hypothetically, if USF wins out that would be 24 wins, which will match the most ever (2018-19 - 24-14 [Brian Gregory]). One more win in the conference tournament and/or post-season would eclipse that mark. The best ever overall winning percentage was 1975-76 when USF was an independent and finished 19-8 (.704) [Chip Conner]. The 1982-1983 Lee Rose coached team finished 22-10 (.688) overall. The 1983-1984 team missed out on the NIT because they lost in the first round of the conference tournament, and the 5th place UAB ended up winning it. So the Sun Belt sent two teams (reg season champ VCU and tourney champ UAB) to the NCCAT and two more teams to the NIT (2nd place and tourney runner up Old Sominion and 3rd place South Alabama)... all four had better overall records than USF ... leaving USF on the outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullyPulpit Posted February 9 Group: Member Topic Count: 365 Content Count: 6,466 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 35 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, Jim Johnson said: You are correct. This could also have the most wins ever in conference play and have the best overall record... and the chance to finish as regular season champions for the first time ever. (Best conference finish ever was 2nd, which happened a few times.) USF is in the 48th season playing basketball in a conference... there have been just 8 winning seasons. Complete list of USF basketball seasons with conference records above .500 (there have been 3 seasons at .500 in conference play)... in all but one season, the Bulls went to the NCAA or NIT. 2011-12 - 12-6 in Big East [Stan Heath] (this is also the most wins and best overall record .667) -- NCAAT 2000-01 - 9-7 in C-USA [Seth Greenberg] -- NIT 1991-92 - 7-5 in Metro [Bobby Paschal] -- NCAAT 1990-91 - 8-6 in Sun Belt [Bobby Paschal] -- NIT 1989-90 - 9-5 in Sun Belt [Bobby Paschal] -- NCAAT 1983-84 - 9-5 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] 1982-83 - 8-6 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] -- NIT 1980-81 - 8-5 in Sun Belt [Lee Rose] -- NIT Hypothetically, if USF wins out that would be 24 wins, which will match the most ever (2018-19 - 24-14 [Brian Gregory]). One more win in the conference tournament and/or post-season would eclipse that mark. The best ever overall winning percentage was 1975-76 when USF was an independent and finished 19-8 (.704) [Chip Conner]. The 1982-1983 Lee Rose coached team finished 22-10 (.688) overall. The 1983-1984 team missed out on the NIT because they lost in the first round of the conference tournament, and the 5th place UAB ended up winning it. So the Sun Belt sent two teams (reg season champ VCU and tourney champ UAB) to the NCCAT and two more teams to the NIT (2nd place and tourney runner up Old Sominion and 3rd place South Alabama)... all four had better overall records than USF ... leaving USF on the outside. That 2011-2012 season was fun. To go 12-6 in the Big East far eclipses anything else the program has accomplished. The Bulls were picked to finish 14th in the conference and ended up in a tie for 4th, but was seeded 6th in the tournament due to tiebreakers. That squad upset Cincy and Louisville and took care of business against the bottom half of the conference and barely lost in the conference tournament to Notre Dame in OT, who was the beneficiary of the double-bye (top 4 seeds got the double-bye).The Big East was the second best conference in the country that season. The following teams made the tournament: #1 Syracuse (31-2), #3 Marquette (25-7), #3 Georgetown (23-8), #4 Louisville (26-9), #6 Cincy (24-10), #7 Notre Dame (22-11), #9 UCONN (21-13), #10 WVU (19-13), #12 (USF) 20-13. USF handled Cal easily in the First Four and then thumped Temple in the First Round. They absolutely should have beaten Ohio in the Round of 32 and would have had a chance to go up against UNC in the Sweet 16. Up by 6 at the half, but Ohio got hot from 3 point range. Ahhh, what could have been. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 9 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,686 Reputation: 5,821 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, BullyPulpit said: USF handled Cal easily in the First Four and then thumped Temple in the First Round. They absolutely should have beaten Ohio in the Round of 32 and would have had a chance to go up against UNC in the Sweet 16. Up by 6 at the half, but Ohio got hot from 3 point range. Ahhh, what could have been. Ohio just had one of those runs that year. Pretty sure they beat Michigan State the day we beat Temple. Can't remember but think they had one more win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted February 9 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,750 Content Count: 17,474 Reputation: 1,229 Days Won: 13 Joined: 08/16/2004 Author Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, BullyPulpit said: That 2011-2012 season was fun. To go 12-6 in the Big East far eclipses anything else the program has accomplished. The Bulls were picked to finish 14th in the conference and ended up in a tie for 4th, but was seeded 6th in the tournament due to tiebreakers. That squad upset Cincy and Louisville and took care of business against the bottom half of the conference and barely lost in the conference tournament to Notre Dame in OT, who was the beneficiary of the double-bye (top 4 seeds got the double-bye).The Big East was the second best conference in the country that season. The following teams made the tournament: #1 Syracuse (31-2), #3 Marquette (25-7), #3 Georgetown (23-8), #4 Louisville (26-9), #6 Cincy (24-10), #7 Notre Dame (22-11), #9 UCONN (21-13), #10 WVU (19-13), #12 (USF) 20-13. USF handled Cal easily in the First Four and then thumped Temple in the First Round. They absolutely should have beaten Ohio in the Round of 32 and would have had a chance to go up against UNC in the Sweet 16. Up by 6 at the half, but Ohio got hot from 3 point range. Ahhh, what could have been. that was the best season of any major mens sport in the history of USF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioBull Posted February 9 Group: Member Topic Count: 45 Content Count: 473 Reputation: 157 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/22/2004 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, monktified said: IMO when Placer is in the game I feel like it is a liability on defense and he seems to be a step slow. Maybe he is still tentative with his hamstring, but I much rather have Reid out there and Placer should just be spotting up for 3's. He is a great teammate though. I agree with this 100% and have been saying it for weeks. We are not as good with Placer in the game. He is a very streaky shooter and if he is ON then leave him in. If not, leave Reid in who is a better defender and excellent passer. We are generally better with Reid in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted February 10 Group: Member Topic Count: 602 Content Count: 16,374 Reputation: 2,890 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted February 10 Makes me wonder what TripB did to reverse the Indian Burial Grounds curse. Well done, Trip!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted February 10 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,686 Reputation: 5,821 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, OhioBull said: I agree with this 100% and have been saying it for weeks. We are not as good with Placer in the game. He is a very streaky shooter and if he is ON then leave him in. If not, leave Reid in who is a better defender and excellent passer. We are generally better with Reid in. Only problem is his size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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