CousinRicky Posted January 31, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,691 Reputation: 5,823 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, belgianbull said: If this becomes a trend this is bad news for USF. Having home games against Power 5 teams replaced with home games against Group of 5 teams will mean lower attendance figures for those particular games; which means less money for us. This $320 million dollar stadium is looking like a better and better investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 358 Content Count: 4,124 Reputation: 2,535 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, CousinRicky said: This $320 million dollar stadium is looking like a better and better investment. It's hard for me to understand anyone who doesn't believe it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted January 31, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,691 Reputation: 5,823 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Just now, Dave_Glaser said: It's hard for me to understand anyone who doesn't believe it's a good idea. I'm a tough guy to understand. But quickly, we are in a crap conference. There is absolutely no guarantee that changes with a stadium especially reading all the stuff in this (or one of the other threads). With my wife bed bound I'm checking quickly. The students won't show up no matter the place. Too many other schools with crappy attendance and on campus stadiums to list. And I always point back to the Yuengling Center being on campus and drawing a whopping 200 - 500 students per game. I just think it is a waste of money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Glaser Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 358 Content Count: 4,124 Reputation: 2,535 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: I'm a tough guy to understand. But quickly, we are in a crap conference. There is absolutely no guarantee that changes with a stadium especially reading all the stuff in this (or one of the other threads). With my wife bed bound I'm checking quickly. The students won't show up no matter the place. Too many other schools with crappy attendance and on campus stadiums to list. And I always point back to the Yuengling Center being on campus and drawing a whopping 200 - 500 students per game. I just think it is a waste of money. We'll see. I think it completely changes the culture on campus. Basketball is not football in Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,029 Reputation: 1,020 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: We'll see. I think it completely changes the culture on campus. Basketball is not football in Florida. Plus it might be a pre-requisite for us to get into a Power 5 conference. I don't think its by chance that plans of an OCS came soon after we were left behind by UCF, Cincy, and Houston. If the OCS helps us get into a major conference it will be worth every penny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USF_Bullsharks Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 11 Content Count: 849 Reputation: 465 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/24/2021 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Crazy how we get on these forums to discuss athletics and somehow people think investing in athletics is a losing proposition. Weird to expect marquee matchups, fan support, and championships without investment. It's time USF grows out of the football infancy phase and moves from the crib to our very own big-boy bed. Want to continue to slide towards irrelevance? Don't invest in athletics. Edited January 31, 2023 by USF_Bullsharks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted January 31, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,448 Reputation: 1,422 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted January 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: 46 minutes ago, CousinRicky said: I'm a tough guy to understand. But quickly, we are in a crap conference. There is absolutely no guarantee that changes with a stadium especially reading all the stuff in this (or one of the other threads). With my wife bed bound I'm checking quickly. The students won't show up no matter the place. Too many other schools with crappy attendance and on campus stadiums to list. And I always point back to the Yuengling Center being on campus and drawing a whopping 200 - 500 students per game. I just think it is a waste of money. We'll see. I think it completely changes the culture on campus. Basketball is not football in Florida. I too am skeptical, although I think there is a way USF and other local government and business entities could successfully package the OCS with a broader-purpose community improvement project that combines public performance/convention venue and transit elements (about which I have pontificated in detail before , so I won't repeat it here). That said, as long as they aren't spending my money on this bright shiny object, merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Johnson Posted January 31, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 1,834 Content Count: 5,471 Reputation: 1,789 Days Won: 13 Joined: 12/02/2018 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, USF_Bullsharks said: Crazy how we get on these forums to discuss athletics and somehow people think investing in athletics is a losing proposition. Weird to expect marquee matchups, fan support, and championships without investment. It's time USF grows out of the football infancy phase and moves from the crib to our very own big-boy bed. Want to continue to slide towards irrelevance? Don't invest in athletics. I think some on here are questioning whether we will slide towards irrelevance regardless of investment. While we are certainly going to slide that way without investment, there's no actual proof or evidence that making investment will change the relevance. Those of us who support making the investment (building the stadium and the other facilities planned) to push for a change, are doing so as an act of faith. Faith that powers that be know more than we do... that watching others make that investment lead to advancement. However, none of us on this forum can point to anything that says "if you build it they will come." So we are faced with two choices: don't invest with a near certainty that USF will be left behind -- or invest with a smaller chance that USF gets ahead. Personally, I choose the latter. Edited January 31, 2023 by Jim Johnson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,608 Reputation: 10,866 Days Won: 424 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, belgianbull said: Plus it might be a pre-requisite for us to get into a Power 5 conference. I don't think its by chance that plans of an OCS came soon after we were left behind by UCF, Cincy, and Houston. If the OCS helps us get into a major conference it will be worth every penny It’s time to build one whether it gets us into a P5 or not. There is college football outside of the P5’s but I understand that some don’t acknowledge that. I just hope that there’s enough that don’t feel that way and appreciate USF football for USF football going forward no matter where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted January 31, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 602 Content Count: 16,379 Reputation: 2,896 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: It's hard for me to understand anyone who doesn't believe it's a good idea. I agree. Glad we will finally see it become reality around 2026 or 2027. If we are still stuck playing in RJS we are screwed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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