puc86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Does anyone still believe that the super secret secondary contract wasn’t impacted positively by the extension since it was resigned in January of this year? Why would anybody accept a negotiation down of guaranteed money while sitting on three wins to their name? CJS definitely got more money for no apparent reason other than VPMK doing VPMK like things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, puc86 said: Does anyone still believe that the super secret secondary contract wasn’t impacted positively by the extension since it was resigned in January of this year? Why would anybody accept a negotiation down of guaranteed money while sitting on three wins to their name? CJS definitely got more money for no apparent reason other than VPMK doing VPMK like things. Paying CJS through 12/2026 due to MK mismanagement is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, El_Toro_86 said: Paying CJS through 12/2026 due to MK mismanagement is awful. In most lines of work when you get to do that twice in the same year you get fired but in most places you would get fired for even bringing up the idea “hey what if we just give everyone an extension on guaranteed contracts for no apparent reason…” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,660 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, puc86 said: In most lines of work when you get to do that twice in the same year you get fired but in most places you would get fired for even bringing up the idea “hey what if we just give everyone an extension on guaranteed contracts for no apparent reason…” An we'll be right back in the same situation with CBG in a few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarnozdabull Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 95 Content Count: 2,430 Reputation: 876 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2009 Share Posted November 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, puc86 said: In most lines of work when you get to do that twice in the same year you get fired but in most places you would get fired for even bringing up the idea “hey what if we just give everyone an extension on guaranteed contracts for no apparent reason…” Do you think he’ll ever admit to that massive mistake if he indeed is forced to fire CBG and his extended buyout - and also possibly the vball coach? Unlikely when members of the press are congratulating him on a job well done during press conferences. Wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, zarnozdabull said: Do you think he’ll ever admit to that massive mistake if he indeed is forced to fire CBG and his extended buyout - and also possibly the vball coach? Unlikely when members of the press are congratulating him on a job well done during press conferences. Wild. Did they not learn anything from the Brett McMurphy school on muckraking yourself to bigger positions? When we needed support we got combative and now that we need combative we get support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,853 Reputation: 3,978 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, puc86 said: Does anyone still believe that the super secret secondary contract wasn’t impacted positively by the extension since it was resigned in January of this year? Why would anybody accept a negotiation down of guaranteed money while sitting on three wins to their name? CJS definitely got more money for no apparent reason other than VPMK doing VPMK like things. Maybe an extension to pay the buyout, smaller payments over more years for the optics he had support? Hell I don’t know but if we end of having to pay him even one cent more due to the extension Kelly needs to go. It was pretty obvious he was in over his head after his first two seasons. Same with Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FazaUSF Posted November 18, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 94 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 670 Days Won: 11 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted November 18, 2022 12 hours ago, puc86 said: Does anyone still believe that the super secret secondary contract wasn’t impacted positively by the extension since it was resigned in January of this year? Why would anybody accept a negotiation down of guaranteed money while sitting on three wins to their name? CJS definitely got more money for no apparent reason other than VPMK doing VPMK like things. I think that if the terms ever get out publicly, we will all see that the terms were reasonably favorable to USF in the case that MK chose termination. Will miss CJS as a person, but taking the chance on him was worth the relatively mild hit USF will take financially. Remember, the Foundation is in a very favorable position. We won't hurt as much this time around from paying a coach a bit not to coach as in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 18, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 5 hours ago, FazaUSF said: I think that if the terms ever get out publicly, we will all see that the terms were reasonably favorable to USF in the case that MK chose termination. Will miss CJS as a person, but taking the chance on him was worth the relatively mild hit USF will take financially. Remember, the Foundation is in a very favorable position. We won't hurt as much this time around from paying a coach a bit not to coach as in the past. There is just no way that’s true. If you have a billion dollar contract with $1 guaranteed dollar you have a $1 contract. We know for a fact that the secondary contract was amended with the change in the new contract and we also know that most of any buyout money in the state of florida exists there. CJS knew he wasn’t doing great here and if someone wants to make your buyout more favorable to them at a time when you haven’t started to be successful that’s a giant red flag to refuse the contract and wait for your pay day they seem to already be planning. Is it really unfathomable to you that someone who made what was universally panned as a horrible idea and is getting peppered with with questions about failure would be willing to do something financially significant to take the heat off of themselves when they know the proof of the degree to which they have failed is likely not to see the light of day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted November 18, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,680 Reputation: 5,816 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, puc86 said: There is just no way that’s true. If you have a billion dollar contract with $1 guaranteed dollar you have a $1 contract. We know for a fact that the secondary contract was amended with the change in the new contract and we also know that most of any buyout money in the state of florida exists there. CJS knew he wasn’t doing great here and if someone wants to make your buyout more favorable to them at a time when you haven’t started to be successful that’s a giant red flag to refuse the contract and wait for your pay day they seem to already be planning. Is it really unfathomable to you that someone who made what was universally panned as a horrible idea and is getting peppered with with questions about failure would be willing to do something financially significant to take the heat off of themselves when they know the proof of the degree to which they have failed is likely not to see the light of day? I'm not sure where I heard it but vaguely recall that the extension wasn't going to change the buyout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now