Brad Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,074 Reputation: 10,844 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 17, 2022 We'll have a board for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestBull Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 61 Content Count: 2,354 Reputation: 699 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted November 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, puc86 said: So should we try to continue to spend on things that everyone continues to point out are of zero value in today’s world or should we be grateful for a reduced budget and the ability to pivot any and all funds into the one thing that continually is pointed out as the only difference maker between success and failure? Cheap coaches + cheap rent in a stadium better than we can build = more money to throw at NIL and it would be even better if we could sell the IPF for scrap and get back all the money wasted on paying people to fail at coaching as well as the money wasted on paying them to stop failing at coaching. For someone with a Ted Lasso avatar, you sure are negative about everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,331 Content Count: 97,074 Reputation: 10,844 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim Johnson said: Tom Allen, former USF DC, has been mentioned as a possible candidate for USF if he is let go by the Hoosiers. Interesting to see how NIL is dramatically affecting IU football. Interesting how his experience with NIL might influence his interest in a school with very little NIL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,119 Reputation: 4,625 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 17, 2022 That article was kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 194 Content Count: 6,784 Reputation: 863 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted November 17, 2022 “It’s not everything, but it’s a variable, and if you don’t have that variable, I’m telling you, they can love you as much as they want, they can think you’re the most awesome person, they can love your culture, and they say “Coach, it’s been great to meet you, I’m going to go somewhere else and get my money.’" Just another day at the office, boys. Now would be the time to embrace the fact that the have-and-have-not-DMZ is clearly marked. But what happens to all those schools that simply don't, or will not, have the NIL funding to produce a seat-at-the-big-peoples-table team? Is there a point where you simply accept the fact that you're destined for G5land in perpetuity and should just get used to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, WoolyBully said: “It’s not everything, but it’s a variable, and if you don’t have that variable, I’m telling you, they can love you as much as they want, they can think you’re the most awesome person, they can love your culture, and they say “Coach, it’s been great to meet you, I’m going to go somewhere else and get my money.’" Just another day at the office, boys. Now would be the time to embrace the fact that the have-and-have-not-DMZ is clearly marked. But what happens to all those schools that simply don't, or will not, have the NIL funding to produce a seat-at-the-big-peoples-table team? Is there a point where you simply accept the fact that you're destined for G5land in perpetuity and should just get used to it? Indiana is a p5. Plenty of p5 teams will be left behind. eventually the top 30 programs will break off forming something similar to the NFL. I'm ok with that. I'm tired of the money grab that has become college athletics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted November 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, Brad said: Interesting how his experience with NIL might influence his interest in a school with very little NIL. Funny thing is Tom Allen makes $4.9m per year. Maybe he should donate half to the NIL instead of complaining that he only has $1.5m to spend on players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,272 Reputation: 6,157 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted November 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, ForestBull said: For someone with a Ted Lasso avatar, you sure are negative about everything I guess it’s a matter of perspective, I see it as being positive that there is an executable path forward instead of being defeated because we can’t afford all of these things and nil money. That begs the question to me why spend the money on all of these other things just because that’s the way people used to do things before the world changed. Taking on a challenge is a lot like riding a horse, isn’t it? If you’re comfortable while you’re doing it, you’re probably doing it wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostbuster Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 730 Reputation: 438 Days Won: 4 Joined: 09/07/2010 Share Posted November 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, puc86 said: So should we try to continue to spend on things that everyone continues to point out are of zero value in today’s world or should we be grateful for a reduced budget and the ability to pivot any and all funds into the one thing that continually is pointed out as the only difference maker between success and failure? Cheap coaches + cheap rent in a stadium better than we can build = more money to throw at NIL and it would be even better if we could sell the IPF for scrap and get back all the money wasted on paying people to fail at coaching as well as the money wasted on paying them to stop failing at coaching. I was with you until you said the IPF should be scrapped. That legitimately has a purpose. In freaking Florida we need a way to practice during storms. Just embarrassing for us not to have it. Hell I would argue the dedicated football facility would be still be worthwhile even as the immediate ROI is not as great as NIL. If you have a recruit deciding between two schools with comparable NILs, but one has nicer facilities that the other straight up doesn't have....who is he going to pick? The stadium on the other hand, that's a downgrade going from RayJay to OCS. So I'm fine skipping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchem1995 Posted November 17, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 51 Content Count: 3,355 Reputation: 1,099 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/02/2014 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim Johnson said: Tom Allen, former USF DC, has been mentioned as a possible candidate for USF if he is let go by the Hoosiers. Interesting to see how NIL is dramatically affecting IU football. IU football coach Tom Allen lays bare the program realities in the NIL era – The Daily Hoosier “Recruits, come play for this man. Best coach in America.” That was Indiana offensive lineman Dylan Powell, who interrupted Tom Allen’s post-game interview on ABC after... Hmmmm he spurned us after one of the best defenses (Bullsharks) for Indiana and stole our recruits too. His “ play in the Big 10” pitch won’t work here. Hmmmm… I’d be careful. He jettisoned us before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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