Outlaw Posted October 20, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, BDYZR said: Marsh played a hell of a lot better in his first game than GB did. He did play better in his first game this year than GB. I think he started a few here before because of injuries or he came in relief because of Injuries. Interesting fact the only qb to ever beat aa fbs team for Jeff Scott transfered to ucf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted October 20, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brad said: You missed the point. Blackwell, flowers, and grothe were mobile quarterbacks. All 3 of them won games with their arm and legs. They produced and took down some big programs. I am not going to put down a player but there is a reason he has no business to be compared to those 3 usf players . Barnett had better rushing an passing stats. He also had more wins but he shouldn't be mentioned with the other 3. Just now, Brad said: Don’t you think there’d be good reason for that?Don’t you think there’d be good reason for that? Trickett perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 20, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,090 Reputation: 10,859 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted October 20, 2022 You’re absolutely ******* hopeless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Posted October 20, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 12,647 Reputation: 3,330 Days Won: 25 Joined: 10/16/2017 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) I mean marsh struggled with cjs and Weiss Jr as oc. He looked his best with trickett as oc and Scott hc. I would say if anyone coached marsh up with the offense and oc it would be the new oc Trickett. The sample space is extremely small so hard to say. As to the other point you don't see Gator fans putting Driscoll or ar15 on a list with Tebow or Chris leak because they could were mobile and could pass. You got to earn the right to be on a list with Blackwell, Grothe, Daniels, and Flowers. Edited October 20, 2022 by Outlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted October 21, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,724 Reputation: 5,862 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I guess I'm a little confused. Exactly how many games did we win this year with a running QB? Or last year for that matter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted October 21, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Bull Awakening said: The defense I don’t think they will come alive yet this season although I like seeing the INTs made and sacks. Just need to put the 3rd down defense together The have been doing better on 3rd downs. Its the big plays and end of the game that we have to work on. They just can't make it the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorbull325 Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 119 Content Count: 6,574 Reputation: 2,752 Days Won: 28 Joined: 09/02/2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: If you say so. We had a lot of quick TDs with Quinton Flowers throwing slants and screens on time that went the distance - and while a dunk is efficient, if that’s the extent of your offensive game, you’ll never score more than 4-6 points per game. We obviously have differing philosophies, but it’s hard to argue with USF’s history. We’ve never won with any consistency with a strong-armed, immobile QB, but we’ve won a lot with guys who could do things with their legs AND arms. That’s not really arguable. That doesnt mean we cant win with a passing QB. Im not even saying one is better than the other. I prefer a running QB. But that's USF's problem l, is that people are too stuck on the past. That is why we are cursed. What worked in the past is irrelevant b/c it was a different coach and team. Figure out how 2 win with what you currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sk00b Posted October 21, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 3,417 Reputation: 1,193 Days Won: 3 Joined: 09/09/2010 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Gatorbull325 said: That doesnt mean we cant win with a passing QB. Im not even saying one is better than the other. I prefer a running QB. But that's USF's problem l, is that people are too stuck on the past. That is why we are cursed. What worked in the past is irrelevant b/c it was a different coach and team. Figure out how 2 win with what you currently have. Hasn't he tried a good five different QBs? I think he has all the styles covered at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman1 Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Brad said: Pat Julmiste didn’t get drafted? FA Rookie Camp Invite with the Bucs IIRC If you are going to bring up Julmiste, then you have to mention the Little Engine that Could in Brian Fisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,504 Reputation: 2,952 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted October 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, Sk00b said: The have been doing better on 3rd downs. Its the big plays and end of the game that we have to work on. They just can't make it the distance. Good! Because when we start seeing an average or better defense I believe we will start winning. Think we are all just waiting on the defense to hold teams to around 14 or less points per game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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