JTrue Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Triple B said: Attacking an opponent's weakness is what good oc's do. Absolutely. KB has looked good against our FCS opponent and UConn and looked good for a half against BYU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 7:36 PM, Brad said: Most qualityiest win of the season. To a 2-3 team, but yeah we will take it.....to be fair their previous losses were to quality opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JTrue said: So far, KB has been able to beat two teams we should absolutely have more talent than and one where it was probably overall equal. But the offense against BYU was putrid, at best. An average OC should be able to put together a functioning offense against an inferior talented team. A good OC finds a way to do something against a team with equal or better talent. KB is to OCs what xCWT is to HCs. As long as he's got the clear talent advantage, he's fine. As soon as the talent is equal or not in his favor, it's lights out. Thats only what you have seen here so far. And I would argue that our talent at the key offensive positions is not on equal footing with a BYU. How can u say they are inferior after what you have seen here for the last year. I would say KB played against pretty equal competition at Valdosta on his way to a Natty in their playoffs. Edited October 14, 2019 by Jonesy Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said: Thats only what you have seen here so far. And I would argue that our talent at the key offensive positions is not on equal footing with a BYU. How can u say they are inferior after what you have seen here for the last year. I would say KB played against pretty equal competition at Valdosta on his way to a Natty in their playoffs. 1) I think you're saying SC State and UConn are not inferior talented teams compared to us...? 2) I would say, based on my general knowledge, or lack there of, we've been recruiting about the same level as BYU the past couple years. 3) You follow the recruiting of both Valdosta AND the rest of D2 football to the point where you're confident that last year's national championship team was on equal footing with their opponents in 2018 when it comes to talent? Edited October 14, 2019 by JTrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DELdaBull Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 86 Content Count: 17,061 Reputation: 1,429 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/15/2005 Share Posted October 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, JTrue said: I thought he did a great job pounding the run. Which I find weird that we didn't START the game trying to pound BYU into submission on the ground. We seemed to have waited until the second half and our QB asking for some reprieve before we went to the ground and pound. It was well known that BYU is bad at run defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,250 Reputation: 6,138 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 14, 2019 In an interesting turn of events the NFL team I follow started an undrafted FCS QB today and has looked better than they have the rest of the season so occasionally a blind squirrel can in fact find a nut it’s just not particularly common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, JTrue said: 1) I think you're saying SC State and UConn are not inferior talented teams compared to us...? 2) I would say, based on my general knowledge, or lack there of, we've been recruiting about the same level as BYU the past couple years. 3) You follow the recruiting of both Valdosta AND the rest of D2 football to the point where you're confident that last year's national championship team was on equal footing with their opponents in 2018 when it comes to talent? 1. Lame question. You know **** well that BYU is superior to those other 2 teams and they were not part of the duscussion. You knew what I meant. 2. I dont follow recruiting enough to respond on whether we are on equal footing there. But the eye test and quality of play over the last year and a half - edge goes to BYU. 3. You honestlly dont believe that the team Valdosta played in a National Championship game is not equal talent wise or at least pretty **** close. They did something to make it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, puc86 said: In an interesting turn of events the NFL team I follow started an undrafted FCS QB today and has looked better than they have the rest of the season so occasionally a blind squirrel can in fact find a nut it’s just not particularly common. There is a reason coaches and players end up at the places they do, but a blanket write-off isn't the best answer. KB could be that FCS QB. It's not the most likely outcome based on ratios, but it doesn't mean it can't happen. In a perfect world, he'd have some time to get his system in place with some players who buy into it so we can get a better take on whether it will work. Bad news is, KB showed up at a time where he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room for growing pains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted October 14, 2019 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jonesy Bull said: 1. Lame question. You know **** well that BYU is superior to those other 2 teams and they were not part of the duscussion. You knew what I meant. 2. I dont follow recruiting enough to respond on whether we are on equal footing there. But the eye test and quality of play over the last year and a half - edge goes to BYU. 3. You honestlly dont believe that the team Valdosta played in a National Championship game is not equal talent wise or at least pretty **** close. They did something to make it that far. 1) That's why I said we were clearly more talented than the other two. 2) I'll disagree here. I don't think BYU had a clear talent advantage over us. 3) I honestly believe Ferris State was more talented than a lot of teams, and likely the ones their way to the championship game, but I won't go further than that. But I do know that Valdosta had 12 guys on their roster from either FBS or FCS as transfers and Ferris had 4. That couldn't have hurt Valdosta's chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonesy Bull Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, JTrue said: 1) That's why I said we were clearly more talented than the other two. 2) I'll disagree here. I don't think BYU had a clear talent advantage over us. 3) I honestly believe Ferris State was more talented than a lot of teams, and likely the ones their way to the championship game, but I won't go further than that. But I do know that Valdosta had 12 guys on their roster from either FBS or FCS as transfers and Ferris had 4. That couldn't have hurt Valdosta's chances. 2. I think they have a clear advantage over us offensively when their starting QB is healthy. When he is out, not so much. Ill agree on defense we are close to equal footing. We may be a little better in places like sacks and tackles for losses, but not much better overall. Either way, we did beat a team that we are at least in the same ballpark with talent wise. That alone should be seen as progress. Its going to take alot more improvent though to beat the better teams left on our schedule. Right now, dont think we have the HC or talent level to pull that off. Hope Im wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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