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Here is a list of defensive rankings for 2016.  USF was slightly better than Texas in the first link.  Texas at #89 in scoring in the second one.  

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/defensive-stats

http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.htmlTexas was #87 in scoring defense in 2015.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2015/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

Yep, they played in the Big 12 so he has that excuse. We'll see as the year goes on if he really is a defensive guru. Hoping he is but not convinced.

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The Elon yardage came against 3rd stringers, when their starter was out and they went to an option QB that the young guys weren't prepared for. After the first drive our starters only allowed 1 ypc. G

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Tech was a great learning experience for our defensive guys. I expect it to be more and more solid as we progress this season.

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Have you not read the dozens of posts from people worried about our run defense?

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4 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Here is a list of defensive rankings for 2016.  USF was slightly better than Texas in the first link.  Texas at #89 in scoring in the second one.  

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/defensive-stats

http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.htmlTexas was #87 in scoring defense in 2015.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2015/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

Yep, they played in the Big 12 so he has that excuse. We'll see as the year goes on if he really is a defensive guru. Hoping he is but not convinced.

Big 12 has no defense... every game is like 100 points scored. I think it's a result of the high school play style in that region, they don't have great defensive players.

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Just now, CousinRicky said:

Here is a list of defensive rankings for 2016.  USF was slightly better than Texas in the first link.  Texas at #89 in scoring in the second one.  

https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaaf/defensive-stats

http://www.cfbstats.com/2016/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.htmlTexas was #87 in scoring defense in 2015.

http://www.cfbstats.com/2015/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html

Yep, they played in the Big 12 so he has that excuse. We'll see as the year goes on if he really is a defensive guru. Hoping he is but not convinced.

 

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Big 12 has no defense... every game is like 100 points scored. 

Yep, as I suspected. That's the excuse.  Play some freakin D and don't let them score 100 on you.

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Yep, as I suspected. That's the excuse.  Play some freakin D and don't let them score 100 on you.

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 I think it's a result of the high school play style in that region, they don't have great defensive players. It's just the way it is. 

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I made an edit:

 

 I think it's a result of the high school play style in that region, they don't have great defensive players. It's just the way it is. 

My only point is that we're calling Strong a defensive genius.  He didn't prove it at Texas.  Being the D coordinator at UF was a lifetime ago.

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Has CCS complained about the D ? Just saying

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I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with the rush defense. The first two teams USF played are run oriented teams.   So the averages may be "jacked-up" a bit especially after playing GA Tech. But I believe the rush defense will be okay. This weekend will be a good test.

I mentioned this in another post.  USF's defense has seen 106 rush plays compared to 30 passing plays.   And an example of how misleading stats can be, one can say 10% of the time when teams pass the ball USF gets an interception. 

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Tech was a great learning experience for our defensive guys. I expect it to be more and more solid as we progress this season.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but over the past few years our defense has seemed to adopt the "bend don't break" mentality. They give up a lot of yards, but they show up when needed (ie the forced fumble and interception in the 4th quarter against GT). We have a lot of young guys and I expect them to get better as the season goes on. What is important is that they are not committing many penalties and have played well enough for us to be 2-0. I am not too worried yet, but these next 2 games (Illinois and ECU) will be good tests and will give us a better idea of how well this defense is going to play this year. 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but over the past few years our defense has seemed to adopt the "bend don't break" mentality. They give up a lot of yards, but they show up when needed (ie the forced fumble and interception in the 4th quarter against GT). We have a lot of young guys and I expect them to get better as the season goes on. What is important is that they are not committing many penalties and have played well enough for us to be 2-0. I am not too worried yet, but these next 2 games (Illinois and ECU) will be good tests and will give us a better idea of how well this defense is going to play this year. 

Cough, 4th and 24, cough.

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