Brad Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,018 Reputation: 10,817 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted July 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, JTrue said: More than likely, we'll move on to someone else. It will be like one of his starts! I saw a stat sheet of MLB starts and the number of IP has dropped over the last few years to under 6. So as far as this discussion goes, it's a non-issue, at least as far as the SP lasts in a game on average. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, Brad said: I saw a stat sheet of MLB starts and the number of IP has dropped over the last few years to under 6. So as far as this discussion goes, it's a non-issue, at least as far as the SP lasts in a game on average. I Apparently you haven't paid attention this year. Shane's 5-6 innings of 0-2 ERs is the reason we didn't win the conference ....... But he's gone now so that elusive conference title should now be in the bag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,018 Reputation: 10,817 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted July 7, 2018 I'm not trying to bag on Shane...so I don't need the woe is Shane nonsense. I'm just saying, if I saw that graphic right, that 5-6 innings is the new MLB norm. You should be elated, not testy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted July 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brad said: I'm not trying to bag on Shane...so I don't need the woe is Shane nonsense. I'm just saying, if I saw that graphic right, that 5-6 innings is the new MLB norm. You should be elated, not testy. I didn't think you were bagging on him, thought you were presenting a stat. A stat that validates much of what I said about SM all season. I've never been "woe is Shane" and I'm neither elated nor testy, just sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrassBulls12 Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 399 Content Count: 4,679 Reputation: 517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 02/03/2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Brad said: I'm not trying to bag on Shane...so I don't need the woe is Shane nonsense. I'm just saying, if I saw that graphic right, that 5-6 innings is the new MLB norm. You should be elated, not testy. I think that has more to do with the value of true aces skyrocketing to the point that Zack Greinke and David Price were getting over 30 million a year at or around 30 years of age. To avoid those faulty contracts, teams look for quality bullpens at pennies on the dollar and use them more often. If you have aces, they pitch deep into games still. Look at the Astros starting rotation. That has just become a luxury, unless you have aces still in their rookie deals like the Mets. They just couldn't stay healthy. However, there are no salaries in college baseball. You can recruit as many shut down aces as you can find, but they too are becoming few and far between in the "throw it as hard as you can in case it is a strike era" that are finding ourselves in. Edited July 7, 2018 by BrassBulls12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Velocity is more valued than control and pitch counts are all the rage. By and large, pitchers do not throw as deep into games and bullpens are used much, much more. No doubt. 4 hours ago, Brad said: Are there a lot of millionaires in the GCL? There's at least 2. The Rays top pick is there right now as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) A change of mind during discussions late Thursday led to a deadline day deal for USF LHP Shane McClanahan and the Rays. The No. 31 overall pick signed for just about slot value at $2,230,100 to start his pro career rather than go back to the Bulls as a redshirt junior. McClanahan told teams in an email during last month's draft he wanted $3 million. http://www.tbo.com/blogs/rays/2018/07/06/rays-journal-ex-usf-ace-shane-mcclanahan-signs/ Edited July 7, 2018 by chapelbull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted July 7, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 582 Content Count: 22,685 Reputation: 5,820 Days Won: 108 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted July 7, 2018 14 hours ago, chapelbull said: A change of mind during discussions late Thursday led to a deadline day deal for USF LHP Shane McClanahan and the Rays. The No. 31 overall pick signed for just about slot value at $2,230,100 to start his pro career rather than go back to the Bulls as a redshirt junior. McClanahan told teams in an email during last month's draft he wanted $3 million. http://www.tbo.com/blogs/rays/2018/07/06/rays-journal-ex-usf-ace-shane-mcclanahan-signs/ That change of mind was probably something like "If I don't sign those people on the bullspen will trash me for another year and I'll lose another $800k." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted July 7, 2018 So his slide this year cost him $800k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrue Posted July 7, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 152 Content Count: 19,395 Reputation: 6,097 Days Won: 233 Joined: 01/13/2011 Share Posted July 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: So his slide this year cost him $800k. Not even that. He started the year on a 35 inning scoreless streak and closed it out by giving up 30 runs in 40 innings. You can narrow it down even further and say from the UConn game on March 23rd when we started conference play, Shane cost himself $800k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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