NewEnglandBull Posted May 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Let’s do 6 for 0. Play them all on the road any time l and all the time. Kick their ass, take their money, get ranked, play NYD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T. Posted May 26, 2018 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 4,751 Content Count: 37,676 Reputation: 2,367 Days Won: 29 Joined: 12/24/2001 Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 2:58 PM, Bullrush33 said: We are phasing out FCS teams Love that we are doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charsibb Posted May 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 653 Content Count: 31,049 Reputation: 2,487 Days Won: 172 Joined: 08/30/2011 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, E.T. said: On 5/25/2018 at 11:58 AM, Bullrush33 said: We are phasing out FCS teams Love that we are doing this. We should keep BCC and FAMU on a rotation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted May 26, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, charsibb said: We should keep BCC and FAMU on a rotation. and ucf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapelbull Posted May 27, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 7,683 Reputation: 1,491 Days Won: 17 Joined: 08/27/2017 Share Posted May 27, 2018 22 hours ago, charsibb said: We should keep BCC and FAMU on a rotation. Maybe we can get them both in the AAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsFanInTX Posted May 27, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 222 Content Count: 4,210 Reputation: 647 Days Won: 8 Joined: 08/17/2006 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) There are so many problems with this scheduling philosophy. Let me try to summarize them. First, by doing so many 2 for 1's, it is hard to get 6 home games a year. Meanwhile everyone else is playing 7 home games, and thus, racking up more wins, in theory. Say all you want about going out and being road warriors, but the fact is, it is far easier to win at home. Say goodbye to 7 home games a year. There is a reason Alabama plays 8 home games a year. Even Alabama occasionally loses on the road, because it's just harder to win on the road, especially against a power program. Next, you are permanently etching in stone that you are a second class program. Power programs, which USF aspires to be, never do 2 for 1's. Ever. Ever. You are saying you are not worthy of playing other programs on an equal footing. Next, you virtually guarantee an extra loss or 2 every year, automatically taking you out of the NY6 bid. The main factor for getting a Ny6 bid is wins. Then, once you have 2 teams with no or one losses, all things being equal, THEN you start compare schedules to see who gets bid. But if you start out with 2 losses, you aren't going, even if you win conference. Next, you're putting yourself behind the 8 ball compared to the rest of the AAC, who plays one P6 opponent and are going 4-0 every year, meanwhile you are going 2-2. Next, you could possibly beat yourself up prior to conference play, when everyone else is just working out the kinks. You are telling the entire world that YOU are inferior. YOU are not worthy, and YOU are a permanent second class citizens. 1-1's only. Everything else is a disgrace. Sure, should you happen to win them, and if you haven't beaten yourself up, then you might be able to make some noise. But when you are playing constant road games, that is going to be hard to do. I understand why it is being done, but that doesn't mean I agree. Quick, name me one major program that does 2 for ones. My point exactly. The end. Edited May 27, 2018 by BullsFanInTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotsofbull99 Posted May 27, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 114 Content Count: 6,744 Reputation: 912 Days Won: 17 Joined: 02/17/2002 Share Posted May 27, 2018 We want Bama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinsanity8404 Posted May 27, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1 Content Count: 60 Reputation: 31 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/16/2017 Share Posted May 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, BullsFanInTX said: There are so many problems with this scheduling philosophy. Let me try to summarize them. First, by doing so many 2 for 1's, it is hard to get 6 home games a year. Meanwhile everyone else is playing 7 home games, and thus, racking up more wins, in theory. Say all you want about going out and being road warriors, but the fact is, it is far easier to win at home. Say goodbye to 7 home games a year. There is a reason Alabama plays 8 home games a year. Even Alabama occasionally loses on the road, because it's just harder to win on the road, especially against a power program. Next, you are permanently etching in stone that you are a second class program. Power programs, which USF aspires to be, never do 2 for 1's. Ever. Ever. You are saying you are not worthy of playing other programs on an equal footing. Next, you virtually guarantee an extra loss or 2 every year, automatically taking you out of the NY6 bid. The main factor for getting a Ny6 bid is wins. Then, once you have 2 teams with no or one losses, all things being equal, THEN you start compare schedules to see who gets bid. But if you start out with 2 losses, you aren't going, even if you win conference. Next, you're putting yourself behind the 8 ball compared to the rest of the AAC, who plays one P6 opponent and are going 4-0 every year, meanwhile you are going 2-2. Next, you could possibly beat yourself up prior to conference play, when everyone else is just working out the kinks. You are telling the entire world that YOU are inferior. YOU are not worthy, and YOU are a permanent second class citizens. 1-1's only. Everything else is a disgrace. Sure, should you happen to win them, and if you haven't beaten yourself up, then you might be able to make some noise. But when you are playing constant road games, that is going to be hard to do. I understand why it is being done, but that doesn't mean I agree. Quick, name me one major program that does 2 for ones. My point exactly. The end. I don't know if you've been watching college ball lately, but 3 loss teams with tougher schedules are being ranked above one loss soft schedule teams across the board. Beating SJSU and UMass at home gets us nowhere, and we have seen that. We also saw Houston get #5 from beating Oklahoma. Also we aren't a major program. Go Bulls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted May 28, 2018 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BullsFanInTX said: There are so many problems with this scheduling philosophy. Let me try to summarize them. First, by doing so many 2 for 1's, it is hard to get 6 home games a year. Meanwhile everyone else is playing 7 home games, and thus, racking up more wins, in theory. Say all you want about going out and being road warriors, but the fact is, it is far easier to win at home. Say goodbye to 7 home games a year. There is a reason Alabama plays 8 home games a year. Even Alabama occasionally loses on the road, because it's just harder to win on the road, especially against a power program. Next, you are permanently etching in stone that you are a second class program. Power programs, which USF aspires to be, never do 2 for 1's. Ever. Ever. You are saying you are not worthy of playing other programs on an equal footing. Next, you virtually guarantee an extra loss or 2 every year, automatically taking you out of the NY6 bid. The main factor for getting a Ny6 bid is wins. Then, once you have 2 teams with no or one losses, all things being equal, THEN you start compare schedules to see who gets bid. But if you start out with 2 losses, you aren't going, even if you win conference. Next, you're putting yourself behind the 8 ball compared to the rest of the AAC, who plays one P6 opponent and are going 4-0 every year, meanwhile you are going 2-2. Next, you could possibly beat yourself up prior to conference play, when everyone else is just working out the kinks. You are telling the entire world that YOU are inferior. YOU are not worthy, and YOU are a permanent second class citizens. 1-1's only. Everything else is a disgrace. Sure, should you happen to win them, and if you haven't beaten yourself up, then you might be able to make some noise. But when you are playing constant road games, that is going to be hard to do. I understand why it is being done, but that doesn't mean I agree. Quick, name me one major program that does 2 for ones. My point exactly. The end. Respectfully your position is wrong in many levels: 1. If the two for ones are spread out we can still have 7 home games a year 95% of the time. 2. Second class program? Hell, many in the nation believe we are ucf and vice versa. 3. We have been balling for only 21 years and only about 16 years at the highest level. We have not earned nothing. Thus we have to go and take it which means schuduling aggressively. 4. Last, we are in the AAC...not the ACC. Our conference has three good teams and the rest are fair at best. We ARE NOT in a P5 thus are NOT a major program in the eyes of the media. You are not going to get there by beating Georgia Tech, ECU, ILLINOIS, etc. To move up the ladder and get an opportunity to get in a better conference you have to swing for the fences. If that is 3 for 1, 6 to 1, etc. do what you got to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted May 28, 2018 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BullsFanInTX said: The main factor for getting a Ny6 bid is wins. The main factor in getting a NY6 bid is winning your conference. The second is CFP ranking .... 1 hour ago, BullsFanInTX said: I understand why it is being done, I don't think you do .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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