USF_Bullwinkle Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 8 Content Count: 146 Reputation: 38 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/24/2013 Share Posted May 20, 2016 OCS? There wasn't even any mentioned plans for an IPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisa el Toro Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 132 Content Count: 10,380 Reputation: 1,058 Days Won: 18 Joined: 08/11/2003 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Sellular1 said: You hit it. Never going to get 50k to watch the Tulsa and Tulame's of the world. With as many graduates as we have in the area, we should be striving to hit 50k to watch USF wreck Tulsa and Tulane. We're not going anywhere if our fanbase continues to poo-poo the conference. We need peeps showing up and donating; even the dorks out East have us beat in the attendance/donor base metric. Edited May 20, 2016 by Paisa el Toro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,423 Reputation: 710 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted May 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ArmyBull said: While I see your point, there are several issues I have. First, regardless of feasibility studies, most of the upper half of the AAC have an OCS. Are we to believe that all of them are in a "better" financial position than us and that an OCS was "feasible"? I find that hard to believe, especially when you look outside the AAC and power 5 at programs that found it "feasible" to build an OCS. I do believe the iron was hot in the BE days. However, many of us on the board and other places, felt like it was awesome to play in RayJay and perhaps felt like the BE money would always be there. If we were going to build an OCS, that would have been the time. We had money, attendance, and AQ conference "power 5" status. Again, operating in hindsight is easy; but, if we would have known what was coming, I believe we would have had an OCS by now, feasibility be damned! That being said, if UCF, Cincy, and Houston can have an OCS, I really don't want to hear all the silly reasons we can not. USF is below conference average in donations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEnglandBull Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 1,518 Content Count: 42,125 Reputation: 8,834 Days Won: 344 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Are there any financial goals for new donors? Just saying "we need to increase" does seem very strategic. Are there any benchmark levels to aspire towards? Edited May 20, 2016 by NewEnglandBull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullsbucsfan426 Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 129 Content Count: 3,114 Reputation: 471 Days Won: 7 Joined: 11/28/2010 Share Posted May 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: Are there any financial goals for new donors? Just saying "we need to increase" does seem very strategic. Are there any benchmark levels to aspire towards? Gotta start by hitting our conference levels. And then working towards aspirant organizations. The only sad thing I find about it is that it didn't used to be that way. We were equals with Pitt and WVU athletically (at least on paper), not aspiring to become them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 56 Content Count: 4,423 Reputation: 710 Days Won: 19 Joined: 03/16/2013 Share Posted May 20, 2016 USF can't afford a stadium, has lower than conference average donations, low conference payout (compared to Big EAST), and we add another deficit producing sport? I am glad that Harlan announced plans for a feasibility study, instead of promising a multimillion dollar OCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltLiquorBull Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 96 Content Count: 4,074 Reputation: 1,383 Days Won: 14 Joined: 01/09/2006 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Our regular donor base appears to be very low for a school as big as we are. At least from what I have read. We need to grow that base. The donors I know are all doing the best they can. We need to add to the roles. Even if it's only like $100 bucks from each new donor, it would really change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,569 Reputation: 10,838 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted May 20, 2016 10 hours ago, Bausfkid said: My bash was there is no talk at USF Athletics or Alumni regarding an OCS. USF Athletics : From the subject of this thread, maybe you didn't bother to check it out: • Complete feasibility study to strategically analyze the benefits, associated costs, and potential funding plan for an on-campus football stadium Alumni: I'll go out on a limb and say that a goodly portion of the posters here wanting an OCS are Alumni. I think bashing can be constructive when used appropriately and based on facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sellular1 Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Member Topic Count: 196 Content Count: 6,614 Reputation: 1,781 Days Won: 51 Joined: 07/04/2008 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) http://system.usf.edu/board-of-trustees/academic-and-campus-environment/2016-ACE/May-19-2016-ACE/USF%20Athletics%20Strategic%20Plan.pdf NEWS University of South Florida hoping to build on campus football stadium Edited May 20, 2016 by Sellular1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted May 20, 2016 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,612 Content Count: 74,569 Reputation: 10,838 Days Won: 423 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted May 20, 2016 8 hours ago, ArmyBull said: While I see your point, there are several issues I have. First, regardless of feasibility studies, most of the upper half of the AAC have an OCS. Are we to believe that all of them are in a "better" financial position than us and that an OCS was "feasible"? I find that hard to believe, especially when you look outside the AAC and power 5 at programs that found it "feasible" to build an OCS. I do believe the iron was hot in the BE days. However, many of us on the board and other places, felt like it was awesome to play in RayJay and perhaps felt like the BE money would always be there. If we were going to build an OCS, that would have been the time. We had money, attendance, and AQ conference "power 5" status. Again, operating in hindsight is easy; but, if we would have known what was coming, I believe we would have had an OCS by now, feasibility be damned! That being said, if UCF, Cincy, and Houston can have an OCS, I really don't want to hear all the silly reasons we can not. The vast majority of all college football programs have an ocs out of necessity .... and if we had struck when we supposedly had money, attendance and AQ conference, we'd be in foreclosure now. And to be honest, I imagine we could have an OCS right now if one was really needed but it would be a piece of **** like BHNFP and our fans are more discriminating than Kanigit fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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