Bench or Flowers for the 2nd half?

[deters-]

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

Only drop i specifically remember was the one in the 4th quarter on 3rd down that would have gotten us into FSU side.

[Triple B]

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

 

We get it. CWT hates Bench so much that he's knowingly going to sabotage his own career by not playing him ...

 

And I'm not defending QF's play today. He missed some throws that he's going to have to make down the line for this season to be a success ... but the coach(es) today, for reasons they know, decided the best option was to play QF the whole game.

[TromBull12]

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

What is your take away from the second half of the game when the wet ball was no longer an issue and both teams started throwing?

[smazza]

Do you continue to play Flowers for the 2nd half, or do you give it to Bench?  I like what they did last week and think that a change of pace is called for.  Flowers has still been floating his throws, and I think Bench, although less mobile, can still hand off well if needed or at least throw ropes.

 

Now if Bench gets hit behind the line too much you either roll him out or you go back to Flowers, but I would start Bench for the 2nd half.

 

 

the same issues as last year

 

while the rest of the team appears to have improved it doesnt matter unless qb play improved

[smazza]

 

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

 

We get it. CWT hates Bench so much that he's knowingly going to sabotage his own career by not playing him ...

 

And I'm not defending QF's play today. He missed some throws that he's going to have to make down the line for this season to be a success ... but the coach(es) today, for reasons they know, decided the best option was to play QF the whole game.

 

 

 

our other qbs must suck

 

that is the only reason we stuck with qf

 

cwt needed to get a  pair of juco qbs to compete for the starting job

 

cwt did in fact tie his job to qf

[smazza]

 

 

 

I swear if i am steven bench I'm out. Good luck coach t but thats an egregious lie. Coachbt said bench would play. What an absolute clown.

 

Why the hell would you change the QB when you are in the game in the 4th?

 

I'm no fan of Taggart but that is an obvious one.

 

 

Q. Why did you play Bench in the FAMU game?  A: Because you told him he'd play and it was scripted when he would play.  Flowers wasn't bad last week but they put in Bench in as planned.

 

Q. Why should you play Bench in today's game?  A: Because you told him he'd play.  Flowers wasn't bad today but they had planned to use Bench.  It was made public.  It was in Joey Knight's article this week.  It wasn't a secret.

 

And, FYI, Bench again graded out better in last weeks game and through practice this week.  Don't ask me why the kid doesn't play. Only Taggart can answer that.

Yes, the coaches grade the players every time on the field.   

 

It is obvious there is no clear winner in the QB battle.  But as a man, Taggart should keep his freaking word.  Just like he told us at one event I was at about how explosive this offense would be.  People are going to want to come to RayJay to see this offense.  This is the same offense we've seen the last 2 years. I'm not even sure about the up tempo thing.  They aren't huddling but they weren't getting plays off before the 10 second mark on the play clock.  

 

Flowers isn't the reason we lost.  And I said in the chat room that if Flowers was going to be your guy going forward that he should play once this game was out of reach.  But don't tell a kid who has worked his butt off that he'll play and not play him.  Keep your mouth shut, tell everyone Flowers is your guy and play him come hell or high water.  And if you lose your job over it, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

Would be great if your boss calls you in his office and tells you what a great job you're doing, how much he appreciates your effort and says you are getting a raise next week.   Then your paycheck shows up and there is no raise.  You go into the boss and ask what's up.  He tells you how hard you're working and THIS week you'll get a raise.  Paycheck shows up again and again no raise.  Do that for a year and you'll get an idea of what Bench has been up against.  Do everything they ask you, don't get a raise, but please show up with a good attitude and bust your ass for me.  

 

You would make a great point, if this wasn't a football game against a ranked in state opponent that you are competing with in the fourth quarter.

 

Anyone could tell you that you don't change a QB when you are tied at halftime as a 4 TD underdog. We had momentum coming out of halftime, and we were in the game in the fourth. Could he have put Bench in during garbage time at the end? Sure, but at that point, who cares? Other than Bench fans on this forum.

 

We got beat by the better team today, Bench wasn't going to stop Dalvin Cook either. Flowers wasn't great by any means, but his play didn't cost us the game.

 

 

 

we will soon see if this theory is true

 

expect our next opponoent to load the box AND FORCE QF TO BEAT US WITH HIS ARM

[DELdaBull]

Both of our QB options suck as passers.

Get over it folks.

[JTrue]

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

What is your take away from the second half of the game when the wet ball was no longer an issue and both teams started throwing?

My takeaway is that you're fishing for excuses. 12 passes for QF in each half.

[hbryan]

 

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

What is your take away from the second half of the game when the wet ball was no longer an issue and both teams started throwing?

 

 

Your over-the-top QF love is unnatural and unseemly.  Get with *_Eats_It, he can probably help you set up a "Flowers for Heisman" website so you can load the internet with your effusive QF accolades.  My guess is that you won't get many page visits but at least you'll have a location where you can shout your approvals from the mountain top of the interwebs.

[Who'sYourData?]

 

So I am watching the game again, I have not seen the first dropped pass. He overthrew Bronson an the sideline, threw one into the ground, one knocked away by Ramsey and one to Barr out of bounds and one near pick as well as the puck in the end zone I saw one competition to Bartr, 1 to Mack and another to DJ for the TD. Where are all those dropped passes? It's halftime at the present

 

We get it. CWT hates Bench so much that he's knowingly going to sabotage his own career by not playing him ...

 

And I'm not defending QF's play today. He missed some throws that he's going to have to make down the line for this season to be a success ... but the coach(es) today, for reasons they know, decided the best option was to play QF the whole game.

 

 

Yes, and coaches ALWAYS make the right decisions.  So we should just be happy.

 

I don't get this.  This is a discussion board.  What should we discuss?  40 pages of, "Wow wasn't that a great TD to DJ?" 

 

What topics can you offer up for discussion that would be productive/entertaining?