Joe Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'll keep banging the drum. Talent wasn't the reason we lost to McNeese State and FAU. While the QB position is thin, we've got enough and/or more talent than those two schools at MOST positions. That being said. Hot seat? Stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72bull Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 54 Content Count: 1,212 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2002 Share Posted September 16, 2013 No, he shouldn't be on the hot seat. He needs to overcome Skip's recruiting and player attitude, which was a lot different than Levitt's. According to the Bulldog forum, Skip is already taking heat at La Tech for a pathetic offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I'll keep banging the drum. Talent wasn't the reason we lost to McNeese State and FAU. While the QB position is thin, we've got enough and/or more talent than those two schools at MOST positions. That being said. Hot seat? Stupid. what could the coaches have done differently? we gave mcneese state 23 points on a pick 6 + 2 turnovers inside our 20 and a safety. we gave FAU a fumble for TD, a pick 6 and another turnover inside our 40. sometimes the less talented teams win (even though I don't believe for a minute that a team that has lost 12 of it's last 13 is somehow much more talented than even a 1-aa program) Edited September 16, 2013 by Bull94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 197 Content Count: 10,251 Reputation: 270 Days Won: 14 Joined: 08/16/2005 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'll keep banging the drum. Talent wasn't the reason we lost to McNeese State and FAU. While the QB position is thin, we've got enough and/or more talent than those two schools at MOST positions. That being said. Hot seat? Stupid. what could the coaches have done differently? we gave mcneese state 23 points on a pick 6 + 2 turnovers inside our 20 and a safety. we gave FAU a fumble for TD, a pick 6 and another turnover inside our 40. sometimes the less talented teams win (even though I don't believe for a minute that a team that has lost 12 of it's last 13 is somehow much more talented than even a 1-aa program) We've lost 12 of 13 but most of those games were against school that had more talent than we dod. Our COMPLETE roster has a lot more talent than McNeese State or FAU. Anyone who says differently is kidding themselves. As far as coaching decisions, there are plenty of things that can be done differently, I'm not Going to sit here and nitpick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'll keep banging the drum. Talent wasn't the reason we lost to McNeese State and FAU. While the QB position is thin, we've got enough and/or more talent than those two schools at MOST positions. That being said. Hot seat? Stupid. what could the coaches have done differently? we gave mcneese state 23 points on a pick 6 + 2 turnovers inside our 20 and a safety. we gave FAU a fumble for TD, a pick 6 and another turnover inside our 40. sometimes the less talented teams win (even though I don't believe for a minute that a team that has lost 12 of it's last 13 is somehow much more talented than even a 1-aa program) We've lost 12 of 13 but most of those games were against school that had more talent than we dod. Our COMPLETE roster has a lot more talent than McNeese State or FAU. Anyone who says differently is kidding themselves. As far as coaching decisions, there are plenty of things that can be done differently, I'm not Going to sit here and nitpick. if you're going to blame those losses on coaches and not lack of talent or just dumb luck turnovers then you should probably point out some examples. maybe a boneheaded call or game mismanagement. no need to nitpick just an example or two. again the most talented team doesn't always win. even if you would consider a team that has lost 12 of 13 talented. most of those games were also played with an NFL QB. our current crop have accounted for 3 offensive TDs while giving away 5. hard to win when your offense is giving up 12 ppg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feardabull Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 138 Content Count: 3,594 Reputation: 202 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/08/2007 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Ludicrous. What we see now is that Skip didn't recruit a single viable player. Not saying I'm sold on Taggart, not at all, but 3 games into cleaning this colossal mess up is not the time to make a decision. Who recruited Marcus Shaw? There are Leavitt players on the team too, like Giddens. I mean, its more than quality at the moment, mentality of can't win a game can overcome talent. Leavitt recruited marcus shaw. He committed october 26 2009 while leavitt was still here. If anything, holtz didnt want shaw and it was evident. How often did he see the field during his tenure? And now here he is first year of taggart and hes on pace for 1500 rushing yards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyBulls Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 6 Content Count: 178 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2010 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Taggart gets atleast 3 years.... possibly 4 before anything should happen. He has to have time to cleanse Skip's whatever mentality out of that locker room with his own recruits. This is what I do not understand and what pisses me off. When we are loosing these games I am furious that it is happen and it makes me sick to my stomach to watch. But to see the players just walking around on the sideline or sitting there like they do not give a crap makes my blood boil. This program used to have pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted September 16, 2013 No, he shouldn't be on the hot seat. He needs to overcome Skip's recruiting and player attitude, which was a lot different than Levitt's. According to the Bulldog forum, Skip is already taking heat at La Tech for a pathetic offense. So using this logic, its on CWT. Why? Because LATech should have the same attitude as the year before when they were the #1 scoring team in the nation. You guys keep using arguments that support your dislike of one thing when it flies in the face of something you support. USF is bad because of the coach from last year but LATech is bad because of the coach from this year? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gismo Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 417 Content Count: 9,688 Reputation: 1,237 Days Won: 8 Joined: 09/24/2009 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) No, he shouldn't be on the hot seat. He needs to overcome Skip's recruiting and player attitude, which was a lot different than Levitt's. According to the Bulldog forum, Skip is already taking heat at La Tech for a pathetic offense.So using this logic, its on CWT. Why? Because LATech should have the same attitude as the year before when they were the #1 scoring team in the nation. You guys keep using arguments that support your dislike of one thing when it flies in the face of something you support. USF is bad because of the coach from last year but LATech is bad because of the coach from this year? Huh? The logic is that both LA Tech and USF are bad because of a coach named Skip Holtz. There seems to be some inertia in all of this. Leavitt left some for Holtz in a good way, and now Holtz left some for Taggart in a bad way. Holtz takes over a winning program and looks bad. Taggart takes over a losing program so he has a lot more leeway. Edited September 16, 2013 by Gismo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted September 16, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted September 16, 2013 No, he shouldn't be on the hot seat. He needs to overcome Skip's recruiting and player attitude, which was a lot different than Levitt's. According to the Bulldog forum, Skip is already taking heat at La Tech for a pathetic offense. So using this logic, its on CWT. Why? Because LATech should have the same attitude as the year before when they were the #1 scoring team in the nation. You guys keep using arguments that support your dislike of one thing when it flies in the face of something you support. USF is bad because of the coach from last year but LATech is bad because of the coach from this year? Huh? The logic is that both LA Tech and USF are bad because of a coach named Skip Holtz. There seems to be some inertia in all of this. Leavitt left some for Holtz in a good way, and now Holtz left some for Taggart in a bad way. Must have been a miracle he won back to back conference championships. Or got to the 1aa playoffs. Pure miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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