D'Ernest Johnson, RB Immokalee HS

[JTrue]

Making the right decision and executing it properly are two different things. Just because it fails, doesn't mean its a bad call. If your kicker misses a 20 yard field goal, doesn't mean it was a poor decision.

Edited September 3, 2014 by JTrue

[Apis Bull]

But we KNOW that strategy didn't work. 

 

 

That's really a stupid thing to say.  Of course we know now.  You must think you're a freaking genius with all the stuff you know after it happens.

[Who'sYourData?]

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

[GaUSFBull]

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

Shadow, I get that you love to argue, but you're being ridiculously more obstinate than normal.  No one said it was a 100% foolproof play. 

 

I think it's time you let this one go. 

[Who'sYourData?]

 

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

Shadow, I get that you love to argue, but you're being ridiculously more obstinate than normal.  No one said it was a 100% foolproof play. 

 

I think it's time you let this one go. 

 

 

Me?  I don't post for hours and I find a dozen posts on this topic.  It isn't even close to being just me. 

 

Personally, I'm convinced the others are arguing so much because they know I'm right and that is why they can't let it go.

[JTrue]

 

 

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

Shadow, I get that you love to argue, but you're being ridiculously more obstinate than normal.  No one said it was a 100% foolproof play. 

 

I think it's time you let this one go. 

 

 

Me?  I don't post for hours and I find a dozen posts on this topic.  It isn't even close to being just me. 

 

Personally, I'm convinced the others are arguing so much because they know I'm right and that is why they can't let it go.

 

[GaUSFBull]

 

 

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

Shadow, I get that you love to argue, but you're being ridiculously more obstinate than normal.  No one said it was a 100% foolproof play. 

 

I think it's time you let this one go. 

 

 

Me?  I don't post for hours and I find a dozen posts on this topic.  It isn't even close to being just me. 

 

Personally, I'm convinced the others are arguing so much because they know I'm right and that is why they can't let it go.

 

 

LOL.  Yeah, it has nothing to do with statistics, and a professional coach and semi-pro football scout are idiots. 

 

You're the guy who always points out that you trust the professionals' opinions rather than message board denizens.  I guess, except for when you're the denizen whose opinion differs from the pros.  Then all the self-righteous ******** goes out the window, nobody but Shadow knows what they're talking about.

 

More power to ya, though, I'm sure you would have denied the Titanic was sinking too if you had been aboard. 

[JTrue]

 

 

 

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

Shadow, I get that you love to argue, but you're being ridiculously more obstinate than normal.  No one said it was a 100% foolproof play. 

 

I think it's time you let this one go. 

 

 

Me?  I don't post for hours and I find a dozen posts on this topic.  It isn't even close to being just me. 

 

Personally, I'm convinced the others are arguing so much because they know I'm right and that is why they can't let it go.

 

 

LOL.  Yeah, it has nothing to do with statistics, and a professional coach and semi-pro football scout are idiots. 

 

You're the guy who always points out that you trust the professionals' opinions rather than message board denizens.  I guess, except for when you're the denizen whose opinion differs from the pros.  Then all the self-righteous ******** goes out the window, nobody but Shadow knows what they're talking about.

 

More power to ya, though, I'm sure you would have denied the Titanic was sinking too if you had been aboard. 

 

The Titanic did not make it across the Atlantic, therefore, going for it was a bad decision.

[GaUSFBull]

The Titanic did not make it across the Atlantic, therefore, going for it was a bad decision.

 

 

   

[ckparrothead]

 

Going for it on 4th & 1 has an insanely high success percentage.

 

Clearly, that's why we made it.

 

 

That's a highly ridiculous thing to say and I think you know that.

 

JTrue brought up the correct point here. If you miss a 30 yard field goal, it doesn't mean you made the wrong call to kick the field goal instead of going for it. You make 30 yard field goals 95% of the time.

 

What I said is absolutely true. NFL percentages on 3rd & 1 or 4th & 1 are 69%. And defense in the NFL is a lot more stout than in college football, so the percentages in college are even higher. Especially when it's an FBS school versus an FCS school, and even more especially when you'd been gashing that FCS school for 300 yards at 9 yards per carry on the ground that evening.

 

The success rate was probably 80%. But that means 20% of the time it fails. You took an 80% chance of ENDING the football game right there on that play...and the cost of it was only 15 yards.

 

No-brainer. Absolute no-brainer.