Capone24 Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 185 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2007 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think it's absurd that the catholic seven are being offered almost double just for basketball! It's not even like all of those teams are great, Seton Hall, Providence, St. Johns(has been better but still not top 25) and Depaul that's more than half of those teams. We still have basketball teams that are equivalent to their top schools(UCONN, Memphis, Cinci, Temple) and our others are just as good if not better than the previously mentioned teams. Plus our deal adds football(most profitable sport) with our huge TV markets. It just doesn't add up? All of those schools have small enrollments and not many alum compared to the NBE. The only saving grace for us is that recruiting costs will be low and we don't have a stadium we have to pay for but this better not be a long term thing otherwise I would go Independent. Play anyone anywhere just for the money and to say we play the best teams which recruits would like. Think about it just two away games would almost pay for that deal with most BCS schools having to pay 1 mil+ for their home OOC games. As for the marketing effect it could be a negative for us just like some have posted where people are used to ESPN or maybe they don't like the announcers that NBC uses? Also it's not like they would be promoting us during the week as much as ESPN would be in addition to the weekday games that have really helped with getting our name out there. Something smells fishy about this offer, it's an insult in my opinion and I doubt they were trying to low ball us b/c it's something I would laugh at and just start my own cable channel, as well as offering the games through the internet. Which should be easy for the conference to start up and probably generate more money through advertising and local broadcasting rights. We need our new Commish who supposedly knows this aspect to play hardball and start showing some initiative and say we'll do it ourselves if you won't pay us. He should know how to start up a broadcasting company with his experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick1ru2 Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 555 Content Count: 14,415 Reputation: 445 Days Won: 13 Joined: 07/25/2008 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The Big East will be promoted on regular NBC stations. Unfortunately its not CBS, which has about 3x the viewers in the 18-49 year old category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted February 13, 2013 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 7,007 Reputation: 2,260 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If - in the course of three to five years - we average 50K in RayJ agasint Memphis, ECU, Tulsa and SMU, getting eyes on TV in Memphis, Tulsa, Greenville, North Carolina and the Cypress Crossing Phase II sub-division of Dallas, it will be a case for believing in miracles. Averaging 50K...'averaging'? The television contract is negotiated with the conference, which means that the tallest midget is, ultimately, still a midget. We can win util the cows come home, and we'll still have to hear "Uh, yeah...but who exactly do you play, again?". If - and that's a giant if - USF finds itself anywhere with more prestige/clout/credibility/appeal/fame than CUSA-II within the next DECADE, I'd be shocked. The "we can't" attitude just amazes me. TCU went from MWC to Big 12. Utah went from MWC to Pac12. Boise State wins BCS bowl games and beats UGA, Oregon, VaTech, etc. They were playing in about an equivalent conference to the new big east. I wonder if their fans said "to hell with this" and just gave up and went home? I don't understand this sentiment or message. To those who are posting along this same vein of negativity... what do you want? What is your point? Why do some feel compelled to say "we suck, this sucks, we give up"? If I'm the only crazy person here who actually believes in us, and thinks if we have another boom that we'll be just fine, so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampatony Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 645 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/09/2010 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If - in the course of three to five years - we average 50K in RayJ agasint Memphis, ECU, Tulsa and SMU, getting eyes on TV in Memphis, Tulsa, Greenville, North Carolina and the Cypress Crossing Phase II sub-division of Dallas, it will be a case for believing in miracles. Averaging 50K...'averaging'? The television contract is negotiated with the conference, which means that the tallest midget is, ultimately, still a midget. We can win util the cows come home, and we'll still have to hear "Uh, yeah...but who exactly do you play, again?". If - and that's a giant if - USF finds itself anywhere with more prestige/clout/credibility/appeal/fame than CUSA-II within the next DECADE, I'd be shocked. The "we can't" attitude just amazes me. TCU went from MWC to Big 12. Utah went from MWC to Pac12. Boise State wins BCS bowl games and beats UGA, Oregon, VaTech, etc. They were playing in about an equivalent conference to the new big east. I wonder if their fans said "to hell with this" and just gave up and went home? I don't understand this sentiment or message. To those who are posting along this same vein of negativity... what do you want? What is your point? Why do some feel compelled to say "we suck, this sucks, we give up"? If I'm the only crazy person here who actually believes in us, and thinks if we have another boom that we'll be just fine, so be it. +1 I don't see why we can't lose 1 game or go undefeated like Boise does and get a chance in high quality bowl games and possibly the playoff if we can have consistency... If we're able to do that with our market people will come calling and we'll build a great fanbase for the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stuben Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 74 Content Count: 2,468 Reputation: 1,139 Days Won: 19 Joined: 04/08/2012 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Here is the problem. Schools don't leave the power conferences any more. When all the slots are full, if we aren't inside the barn, then we won't get to dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampatony Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 645 Reputation: 50 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/09/2010 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If there isn't enough seats to sit in then we build our own... Win and win a lot... that's all we can do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull-by-Marriage Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 355 Content Count: 4,741 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/25/2004 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If - in the course of three to five years - we average 50K in RayJ agasint Memphis, ECU, Tulsa and SMU, getting eyes on TV in Memphis, Tulsa, Greenville, North Carolina and the Cypress Crossing Phase II sub-division of Dallas, it will be a case for believing in miracles. Averaging 50K...'averaging'? The television contract is negotiated with the conference, which means that the tallest midget is, ultimately, still a midget. We can win util the cows come home, and we'll still have to hear "Uh, yeah...but who exactly do you play, again?". If - and that's a giant if - USF finds itself anywhere with more prestige/clout/credibility/appeal/fame than CUSA-II within the next DECADE, I'd be shocked. The "we can't" attitude just amazes me. TCU went from MWC to Big 12. Utah went from MWC to Pac12. Boise State wins BCS bowl games and beats UGA, Oregon, VaTech, etc. They were playing in about an equivalent conference to the new big east. I wonder if their fans said "to hell with this" and just gave up and went home? I don't understand this sentiment or message. To those who are posting along this same vein of negativity... what do you want? What is your point? Why do some feel compelled to say "we suck, this sucks, we give up"? If I'm the only crazy person here who actually believes in us, and thinks if we have another boom that we'll be just fine, so be it. I'm there with you. We also need to publicly state that we will play any "big boy" school any time, any where! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skingraft Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 743 Content Count: 13,357 Reputation: 2,482 Days Won: 63 Joined: 12/11/2006 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The more I read this, the more I'm convinced us, cinci, uconn, and ucf have near plans to bail. The lack of stability drove the price down, and the future expansion will keep them down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hem Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 64 Content Count: 4,663 Reputation: 401 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/24/2012 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The more I read this, the more I'm convinced us, cinci, uconn, and ucf have near plans to bail. The lack of stability drove the price down, and the future expansion will keep them down God I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaUSFBull Posted February 13, 2013 Group: Member Topic Count: 263 Content Count: 24,750 Reputation: 3,107 Days Won: 87 Joined: 12/15/2009 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think at this point, everyone's got a plan to bail. Some have just been more public about it than others. You have to have multiple plans for this type of situation because odds are the chips aren't going to fall exactly the way anyone expects - at least they haven't to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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