bj daniels experiment is over

[smazza]

if we stand pat

we certainly wont win

and

we wont develop anyone for the future

[usfgrad84]

In hindsight, sure. It looks like Bridgewater is better than BJ.

If the timing was a little different we may have had an even better chance to get him, but let's look at the reality. At the time BJ was a 2 year starter and still had a world of potential. The thing everyone blamed BJs problems. On the fact that we had no receivers. As a true freshman would Bridgewater really have been able to come here and be a better QB than BJ and win the starting job last year?

I don't think he would have. Bridgewater really didn't get any significant playing time until their 4th game last year. He wasn't good enough to beat out Will Stein who was no where near as good a QB that BJ is. They also had several good receivers on their roster last year. It was easy for the UL coaches to promise Bridgewater a realistic shot at starting early.

We were 4-0 having beat ND and BJ put up great stats in the 3 other wins. Bridgewater wouldn't have beaten BJ out for the starting job and probably would not have seen any significant playing time until the 6th game or so. At which time the coaching staff probably would have wanted to keep the red shirt for him. Then he would have had to beat BJ out this year. I don't care who you are, its not so easy to beat out a 3 year starter that is expected to become a conference's all time yardage leader. Not for a QB that hasn't even step foot on the field yet which Bridgewater more than likely would have been if he came here.

It would have been nice to have him here, but circumstances and timing make that look like he made the right choice for him to go to UL. Sucks for us, but happy for him its working out. It wouldn't have worked out the same way if he came here

[Bull94]

In hindsight, sure. It looks like Bridgewater is better than BJ.

If the timing was a little different we may have had an even better chance to get him, but let's look at the reality. At the time BJ was a 2 year starter and still had a world of potential. The thing everyone blamed BJs problems. On the fact that we had no receivers. As a true freshman would Bridgewater really have been able to come here and be a better QB than BJ and win the starting job last year?

I don't think he would have. Bridgewater really didn't get any significant playing time until their 4th game last year. He wasn't good enough to beat out Will Stein who was no where near as good a QB that BJ is. They also had several good receivers on their roster last year. It was easy for the UL coaches to promise Bridgewater a realistic shot at starting early.

We were 4-0 having beat ND and BJ put up great stats in the 3 other wins. Bridgewater wouldn't have beaten BJ out for the starting job and probably would not have seen any significant playing time until the 6th game or so. At which time the coaching staff probably would have wanted to keep the red shirt for him. Then he would have had to beat BJ out this year. I don't care who you are, its not so easy to beat out a 3 year starter that is expected to become a conference's all time yardage leader. Not for a QB that hasn't even step foot on the field yet which Bridgewater more than likely would have been if he came here.

It would have been nice to have him here, but circumstances and timing make that look like he made the right choice for him to go to UL. Sucks for us, but happy for him its working out. It wouldn't have worked out the same way if he came here

bridgewater was going wherever Clint Hurtt told him to go. we would have had to hire hurtt in order to get him. they have a better o-line and better Rbs than us. that helps a QB tremendously when he doesn't have to be 92% of your offense.

[Cow Pie]

the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right

he is not a d1 qb

yes he makes an occassional great play

yes he has great numbers against crappy teams

he doesnt win

he cant throw a catchable ball consistently

he makes bad decisions

we don't use him right.

skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense

He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities

feel sorry for the kid

he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game.

BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths.

BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips...

Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes.

so you blame a QB for not fitting into the system but not the system for adapting to the QBs strengths?

BJD is one dimensional... he runs and tosses the ball up when he can't run anymore... more often then not when he tosses the ball up its an INT

The entire BEast figured this out long ago which is why we get our asses handed to us by them every single season.

The system is not the problem, its BJD... we need a QB that can actually... well... throw the **** ball consistently

[Bull94]

the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right

he is not a d1 qb

yes he makes an occassional great play

yes he has great numbers against crappy teams

he doesnt win

he cant throw a catchable ball consistently

he makes bad decisions

we don't use him right.

skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense

He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities

feel sorry for the kid

he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game.

BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths.

BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips...

Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes.

so you blame a QB for not fitting into the system but not the system for adapting to the QBs strengths?

BJD is one dimensional... he runs and tosses the ball up when he can't run anymore... more often then not when he tosses the ball up its an INT

The entire BEast figured this out long ago which is why we get our asses handed to us by them every single season.

The system is not the problem, its BJD... we need a QB that can actually... well... throw the **** ball consistently

so tom brady is one dimensional. he can't run at all.

maybe that's why belicheck doesn't call 33 QB draws a game.

plenty of college offenses have been quite successful with a QB that isn't a great thrower.

apparently after 2+ years holtz hasn't figured out Daniels strength isn't passing the ball. he threw 33 times in a 1 score game. nice play calling.

[thebouncer1898]

agreed. The reason we talk about potential is because it is always there. You can see it in the games where he shines. Skip and Fitch just call the worst plays I swear. I wonder how BJ feels about the playcalling. I would like to hear his take on it. The only passing plays he really gets are dumps and long balls. Very few of the passing plays have him wait for a receiver to run his route and then find him. As soon as the ball is snapped he knows exactly where he is going.

Maybe those are the only throws he makes because he can't/doesn't know how to read a defense. Nobody knows what play was called, and what his thought process is, because we arent privy to the gametape.

[DELdaBull]

agreed. The reason we talk about potential is because it is always there. You can see it in the games where he shines. Skip and Fitch just call the worst plays I swear. I wonder how BJ feels about the playcalling. I would like to hear his take on it. The only passing plays he really gets are dumps and long balls. Very few of the passing plays have him wait for a receiver to run his route and then find him. As soon as the ball is snapped he knows exactly where he is going.

Maybe those are the only throws he makes because he can't/doesn't know how to read a defense. Nobody knows what play was called, and what his thought process is, because we arent privy to the gametape.

But we can see the game and what kind of routes are being run. Most are deep comebackers, out, or go routes. Very limited route tree.

[snarling Bull]

bj makes bad decisions he heaves the ball and hopes someone can run like h*ll to catch it. he throws into double coverage when there are wide open receivers

[Cow Pie]

the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right

he is not a d1 qb

yes he makes an occassional great play

yes he has great numbers against crappy teams

he doesnt win

he cant throw a catchable ball consistently

he makes bad decisions

we don't use him right.

skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense

He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities

feel sorry for the kid

he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game.

BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths.

BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips...

Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes.

so you blame a QB for not fitting into the system but not the system for adapting to the QBs strengths?

BJD is one dimensional... he runs and tosses the ball up when he can't run anymore... more often then not when he tosses the ball up its an INT

The entire BEast figured this out long ago which is why we get our asses handed to us by them every single season.

The system is not the problem, its BJD... we need a QB that can actually... well... throw the **** ball consistently

so tom brady is one dimensional. he can't run at all.

maybe that's why belicheck doesn't call 33 QB draws a game.

plenty of college offenses have been quite successful with a QB that isn't a great thrower.

apparently after 2+ years holtz hasn't figured out Daniels strength isn't passing the ball. he threw 33 times in a 1 score game. nice play calling.

Tom Brady can throw a ball accurately and consistently anywhere from 10 to 50 yards... BJD can't do neither.

[zarnozdabull]

the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right

he is not a d1 qb

yes he makes an occassional great play

yes he has great numbers against crappy teams

he doesnt win

he cant throw a catchable ball consistently

he makes bad decisions

we don't use him right.

skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense

He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities

feel sorry for the kid

he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game.

BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths.

BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips...

Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes.

so you blame a QB for not fitting into the system but not the system for adapting to the QBs strengths?

BJD is one dimensional... he runs and tosses the ball up when he can't run anymore... more often then not when he tosses the ball up its an INT

The entire BEast figured this out long ago which is why we get our asses handed to us by them every single season.

The system is not the problem, its BJD... we need a QB that can actually... well... throw the **** ball consistently

so tom brady is one dimensional. he can't run at all.

maybe that's why belicheck doesn't call 33 QB draws a game.

plenty of college offenses have been quite successful with a QB that isn't a great thrower.

apparently after 2+ years holtz hasn't figured out Daniels strength isn't passing the ball. he threw 33 times in a 1 score game. nice play calling.

Tom Brady can throw a ball accurately and consistently anywhere from 10 to 50 yards... BJD can't do neither.

+10000000000000000000000

Sorry but that argument is ridiculous. A QB is supposed to manage the game and be and be an accurate passer, if he can scramble, then thats just a plus.