TrujilloBull2013 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 33 Content Count: 1,719 Reputation: 67 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/29/2009 Share Posted September 14, 2012 lol @ the experiment is over. no ****. this is his senior year, it's over either way. he may graduate as the BE all time leader in total offense, but he just doesn't have the drive. he is a far superior athlete than Grothe, bigger arm, faster legs, but Grothe had so much heart and grit and WILLED us to many comeback wins. that said, our receivers were dropping balls all over the place last night. that's not entirely on BJ. clearly he could be gaining big yards running the ball 20 times a game, but who is his backup if he gets hurt? can't coach scared. if he is a natural born runner then you need to run him without fear of injury. good point. cant argue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieRayBull Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 6 Content Count: 50 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/19/2011 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Remember that spectacular catch that was a sure-interception... that throw into TRIPLE COVERAGE that should've never been? This is indicative of his thought processs. The guy makes three 50+ yd TDs last week, and then shows up and thinks because he has "confidence" in his receivers that he can just lob the ball down the field and the receivers will just go get it, and if necessary rip it away from a defender. That's not how the QB position is supposed to be played. The "experiment" should begin--with a new QB. Now. I don't care if time is split, but our top backup needs to be playing every game (and didn't someone from the coaching staff say this would happen anyway?). You're spot on in your analysis of his thought process. He's not a QB. He's an athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullshiznitz Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 128 Content Count: 1,768 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/26/2001 Share Posted September 14, 2012 the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right he is not a d1 qb yes he makes an occassional great play yes he has great numbers against crappy teams he doesnt win he cant throw a catchable ball consistently he makes bad decisions we don't use him right. skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities feel sorry for the kid he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game. BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths. BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips... Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes. BJ was 33rd in the nation in QB ratings in 2009, I hardly call that failing under Leavitts system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right he is not a d1 qb yes he makes an occassional great play yes he has great numbers against crappy teams he doesnt win he cant throw a catchable ball consistently he makes bad decisions we don't use him right. skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities feel sorry for the kid he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game. BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths. BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips... Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes. BJ was 33rd in the nation in QB ratings in 2009, I hardly call that failing under Leavitts system. 31st in passing efficiency and 56th for total offense even without the benefit of stat padding from 3 early cupcakes that was his redshirt freshman year Holtz needs to adapt his offense to BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatDaddyBull Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 34 Content Count: 2,166 Reputation: 225 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/09/2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The coaches job is to form a plan for success given the players he is putting onto the field. It's not to try to jam a square peg in a round hole. BJ would have plenty success in plenty of schools, but he's limited by USF insisting on trying to make him do things that he has shown he can't do. It's physical limitation, not mental errors at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The coaches job is to form a plan for success given the players he is putting onto the field. It's not to try to jam a square peg in a round hole. BJ would have plenty success in plenty of schools, but he's limited by USF insisting on trying to make him do things that he has shown he can't do. It's physical limitation, not mental errors at this point. exactly. they need to fit the system to their players strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Toro_86 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 176 Content Count: 8,612 Reputation: 2,661 Days Won: 28 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The blame lies with the recruiting of both Leavitt and Holtz. For 4 years, there has not been a credible option to go to over BJ. With that said, Holtz has done a poor job of changing his philosophy to suit the talents of BJ. It's almost become unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull94 Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 22 Content Count: 8,722 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 23 Joined: 02/02/2005 Share Posted September 14, 2012 The blame lies with the recruiting of both Leavitt and Holtz. For 4 years, there has not been a credible option to go to over BJ. With that said, Holtz has done a poor job of changing his philosophy to suit the talents of BJ. It's almost become unwatchable. I'm fine if you want to run your system. recruit somebody that has the natural talents to run it though. until then adapt your **** system to the guy you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 2,305 Reputation: 120 Days Won: 6 Joined: 11/29/2010 Share Posted September 14, 2012 agreed. The reason we talk about potential is because it is always there. You can see it in the games where he shines. Skip and Fitch just call the worst plays I swear. I wonder how BJ feels about the playcalling. I would like to hear his take on it. The only passing plays he really gets are dumps and long balls. Very few of the passing plays have him wait for a receiver to run his route and then find him. As soon as the ball is snapped he knows exactly where he is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deters- Posted September 14, 2012 Group: Member Topic Count: 67 Content Count: 3,749 Reputation: 309 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/22/2008 Share Posted September 14, 2012 the other d1 coaches that recruited him were right he is not a d1 qb yes he makes an occassional great play yes he has great numbers against crappy teams he doesnt win he cant throw a catchable ball consistently he makes bad decisions we don't use him right. skip tries to make BJ adapt to his offense He should adapt his offense to BJ's abilities feel sorry for the kid he would be blowing up in Snyder's adapted offense. That Klein guy is getting some good press. he just carries it 20+ times per game, averages 3.6 ypc and throws it 15 times per game. BJ is averaging 33 pass attempts per week. not exactly adapting to his strengths. BJD is a dud... he failed under Leavitts BJ friendly system, and he has failed under Skips... Regardless of which system he is under he makes the same mistakes. He was redshirt freshman thrust into the spotlight ahead of schedule when Grothe went down. Daniels was not ready at all and did the best he could that year. Daniels has plenty of talent but I too think he is in the wrong system. He would be great in the Nevada offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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