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Wow ND to the ACC! Now what for the BE?

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We have to get out of the Big East. The conference just turned in to CUSA. I hope Doug is on the phone with the Big 12, but I doubt it. Him and Judy seem overly committed to the Big East, unfortunately.

They've said that they're committed to the Big East and envision USF as the premiere program in all sports. They're thinking that they'd rather be at the top of the Big East than the bottom of a power conference. If the conference signs a good TV deal then this is not a bad position to be in, if not, we'll be mired in mediocrity until we can get out.

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Amid all this gloom and doom, I don't expect this to affect my viewing of USF sports much at all. Should we go to the B12 (don't bet your lunch money on that) we will be a bottom half football member. Oh, that's right, we do that in the BE. I go to the games, I cheer (and sweat and curse) for my Bulls and however it shakes out, it shakes out. USF isn't winning any National Championships in my lifetime so what the F does it matter? We were delighted to go to Conf USA back in the day (from what I've read here) and now we are back there pretty much. Those that say the ACC is the BE. Well the BE is Conf USA. Not many schools move into elite status. There are reasons for that. Not saying it will NEVER change, but it will be a long, long time before it happens.

Just relax fellas and enjoy USF football, BB, baseball, etc.

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We used to be just as bad as NOva and Georgetown not long ago

Do you seriously believe what you write?

So back in 1997 we were able to beat FSU and Miami?

That is not at all what you wrote.

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Points of interest:

  • Notre Dame's NBC contract is up in 2014, when the new playoffs start, and those are designed to exclude people like ND who aren't part of the conferences that are supposed to have a shot.
  • Notre Dame is going to play 5 teams from the ACC...for the 2013 season if they pony up and get out of the BE...or for no seasons if they get out in 2014.

What I see happening is that Notre Dame pays the $5 million, maybe a little more than that to get out just under 27 months (July 1, 2014 is closer to 22-21 months), and will end up being a full ACC football member. They'll take advantage of the BCS setup for 2013 and ride it out, then in 2014, they go full ACC. Assuming the ACC decides to have a 9 game conference schedule, ND will be left with 3 spots to play it's perennial games with Navy, Stanford, Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue, and Army/Air Force. I expect them to either keep the yearly game with Michigan and/or Navy, and the rest get thrown into rotation. ND will be forced to join the ACC, as the new playoff and them being unable to get in without a conference championship isn't gonna cut it.

They are already playing Pitt yearly. Maybe the ACC will reshuffle it's divisions to suit ND's needs?

At that point, Louisville, UConn, and Rutgers are on the target list as team 16. If it's UConn or Rutgers, UL, UC, and USF become major targets of the big 12 looking to get back to 12..or possibly 14. Rutgers could end up on the big 10 radar once again. the big east is the only store left to shop at with decent pricing, as everyone else will follow suit with the ACC and jack up their exit fees.

here's to hoping they pick up UConn or Rutgers, and UL and USF are lucky enough to get invites to play on the great plains.

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ND has been working on this deal with ACC and Big 12 for a while. The five ACC games will be split beyween NBC and ESPN, so expect NBC to pay around $25mil and ESPN around $15and mil.

The new $50 mil buyout was a suprise and needed Pitt and Cuse votes. When does that date start, we will find out soon BUT FSU might still swing $50 mil buyout. Rumor is UL proposed to pay FSU $20and million buyout with theirs if it was UL and FSU. Also rumor Big 12 $60would mil put back for expansion.

So its down to UL and FSU, unless ESPN and Big 121212 agree that USF and UL come but Big 1212 wants another ~20% for contract. Big 1212 would also not gift either team with buyout money like TCU and WVU, and would require the scheduled TV payoits. (50%,67%,85%,100% so 4 years )

So if its UL and FSU to Big 12, Uconn replaces FSU

If its UL, Usf to Big 12, then Uconn, RU, and GT to ACC to even out bball to 18

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ND has been working on this deal with ACC and Big 12 for a while. The five ACC games will be split beyween NBC and ESPN, so expect NBC to pay around $25mil and ESPN around $15and mil.

The new $50 mil buyout was a suprise and needed Pitt and Cuse votes. When does that date start, we will find out soon BUT FSU might still swing $50 mil buyout. Rumor is UL proposed to pay FSU $20and million buyout with theirs if it was UL and FSU. Also rumor Big 12 $60would mil put back for expansion.

So its down to UL and FSU, unless ESPN and Big 121212 agree that USF and UL come but Big 1212 wants another ~20% for contract. Big 1212 would also not gift either team with buyout money like TCU and WVU, and would require the scheduled TV payoits. (50%,67%,85%,100% so 4 years )

So if its UL and FSU to Big 12, Uconn replaces FSU

If its UL, Usf to Big 12, then Uconn, RU, and GT to ACC to even out bball to 18

Seems like you have a pretty good read on this stuff. I'll take your word for it. You related to Brett McMurphy by any chance?

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Big 10 has made it clear they only want AAU institutions, in fact they had stated that Nebraska would not have been admitted had they known they would be dropped from the AAU. With that in mind Rutgers would be a candidate but UConn would not.

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We used to be just as bad as NOva and Georgetown not long ago

Do you seriously believe what you write?

So back in 1997 we were able to beat FSU and Miami?

That is not at all what you wrote.

All I said was that we should add Georgetown and Nova since they are (A) already in the BEast, (B )have kickass basketball programs which makes them a better addition then another ECU or Troy.

Sure they will both get their doors blown in for a few years, but thy will sooner or later get better over time.

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