Bullsbot Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 50,911 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2016 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Golesh, Kelly emphasize building culture ahead of upcoming season The OracleView the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I’m glad that when I did not see any quotes directly attributed to the title, if anyone actually used those exact words they are completely tone deaf and should be fired immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolyBully Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Bull Backers Topic Count: 195 Content Count: 6,765 Reputation: 856 Days Won: 3 Joined: 08/01/2000 Share Posted August 13, 2023 "Luncheon host and former USF linebacker Sam Bellington (left) and head coach Alex Golesh (right) gave guests a glimpse into what fans can expect in the 2023 season. ORACLE PHOTO/JUSTIN SEECHARAN" I'm thinking that name should be Sam Barrington. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted August 13, 2023 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,983 Reputation: 2,245 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I think we should ban the C word for a good 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman1 Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted August 13, 2023 3 hours ago, puc86 said: I’m glad that when I did not see any quotes directly attributed to the title, if anyone actually used those exact words they are completely tone deaf and should be fired immediately. Per the article “Kelly said the school’s initiative to improve its athletic facilities shows a commitment to building a winning culture for its sports programs — especially football.” It was not a direct quote though, so given the fact that the author messed up Barrington’s last name, maybe he took some liberty in reporting what MK actually said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belgianbull Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 0 Content Count: 2,030 Reputation: 1,022 Days Won: 10 Joined: 12/02/2022 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) I think coaches and AD's all over the country use the words "budling a culture" all the time. But the culture word has to coincide with winning. It cant be used as an excuse why we cant win right away. I don't think that's happening here. So personally I don't have a problem with it. Edited August 13, 2023 by belgianbull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls On Parade Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 23 Content Count: 10,200 Reputation: 1,714 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/02/2005 Share Posted August 13, 2023 That's fine when and if you actually build a winner....but year 3 and 1 fbs win and culture talk should be an automatic firing in contracts going forward here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,253 Reputation: 6,141 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted August 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, bowman1 said: Per the article “Kelly said the school’s initiative to improve its athletic facilities shows a commitment to building a winning culture for its sports programs — especially football.” It was not a direct quote though, so given the fact that the author messed up Barrington’s last name, maybe he took some liberty in reporting what MK actually said So is building an adjective or a verb in the title? It says that we are focused on buildings, which hopefully shows that we are committed to a winning culture. The differences maybe subtle but to me saying I’m wasting all of this money to hope it pays off in wins is much better than saying I’m specifically working on culture at the three year mark which is why I can’t be expected to win yet as that can only be built by losing as much as possible on the field, in recruiting and in player retention… it’s a process and it takes an undefined amount of time and will not show incremental growth to show it’s working … and it’s just too complex for you to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friscobull Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 7 Content Count: 10,881 Reputation: 3,993 Days Won: 67 Joined: 05/23/2019 Share Posted August 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, puc86 said: So is building an adjective or a verb in the title? It says that we are focused on buildings, which hopefully shows that we are committed to a winning culture. The differences maybe subtle but to me saying I’m wasting all of this money to hope it pays off in wins is much better than saying I’m specifically working on culture at the three year mark which is why I can’t be expected to win yet as that can only be built by losing as much as possible on the field, in recruiting and in player retention… it’s a process and it takes an undefined amount of time and will not show incremental growth to show it’s working … and it’s just too complex for you to understand. Building culture is a cop out and simply used by the previous loser and others to buy time because it is an immeasurable metric they can tout while every other measurable metric is failure. If Goach starts using this verbiage then it is safe to say he is lost and a failure, fingers crossed, I think this guy will be pretty good, only a hunch. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman1 Posted August 13, 2023 Group: Member Topic Count: 63 Content Count: 2,358 Reputation: 1,116 Days Won: 8 Joined: 06/24/2007 Share Posted August 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, puc86 said: So is building an adjective or a verb in the title? It says that we are focused on buildings, which hopefully shows that we are committed to a winning culture. The differences maybe subtle but to me saying I’m wasting all of this money to hope it pays off in wins is much better than saying I’m specifically working on culture at the three year mark which is why I can’t be expected to win yet as that can only be built by losing as much as possible on the field, in recruiting and in player retention… it’s a process and it takes an undefined amount of time and will not show incremental growth to show it’s working … and it’s just too complex for you to understand. Ok - I see your point and choose to be believe that “building” is a verb based on tangible actions referenced in Kelly’s statement, like the IPF and OCS My personal preference is that all members of the athletic department lay-off the term “culture” until we actually start winning FBS football games (plural) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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