olafberserker Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 941 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Who'sYourData? said: UCF got wildly lucky with a coach and a QB. UCF had terrible attendance at their new, crappy OCS and player killing IPF, and were winless on the field after all that "investment." They were in debt up to their eyeballs. If Frost and MM had not shown up when they did and gotten the bandwaggoners interested in melting on Aluminum bleacher in a "stadium" that was a safety hazard, it would have all fallen apart. There was no real plan. This is true. But I do think they get credit for investing in the program and making it a priority. Something we haven't done since the Jim was fired up until the past few years. I'd like to have an OCS, but we play in a great stadium. If CAG wins some games with an exciting offense no less, then we are primed for big things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 941 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, puc86 said: Someone please show me where anyone said anywhere that an OCS was a requirement by anyone for anything or where a single game was won by an OCS. An OCS is discussed as a mythical thing for three reasons 1) ucf built one and they eventually got in and we did not build one and then we didn’t get back in but it completely ignores that they have been consistently winning and relevant while he have not and back when we got in last time we were consistently winning and relevant. 2) we just don’t have one so people always think that’s the difference maker and 3) because it’s expensive and takes a long time so it allows a forever excuse to be able to be developed that will eventually be someone else’s problem when it solves exactly zero things link to where anyone has said it's "the difference maker" .... but it does show a commitment to the program . Lots of schools have them so they can't all be dumber than the puc Edited December 5, 2022 by olafberserker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloan1919 Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 198 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2009 Author Share Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, puc86 said: Someone please show me where anyone said anywhere that an OCS was a requirement by anyone for anything or where a single game was won by an OCS. An OCS is discussed as a mythical thing for three reasons 1) ucf built one and they eventually got in and we did not build one and then we didn’t get back in but it completely ignores that they have been consistently winning and relevant while he have not and back when we got in last time we were consistently winning and relevant. 2) we just don’t have one so people always think that’s the difference maker and 3) because it’s expensive and takes a long time so it allows a forever excuse to be able to be developed that will eventually be someone else’s problem when it solves exactly zero things Forgot the stadium. Look at budgets. Compare there’s to ours. We aren’t investing like they are, period regardless of how we spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBulls12 Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 62 Content Count: 3,698 Reputation: 930 Days Won: 7 Joined: 03/17/2012 Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said: ****, son. Not cool. Do you guys know each other? Sounds like the one guy knows the other guy's mom. Not sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tau.reanb Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 19 Content Count: 809 Reputation: 130 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/31/2008 Share Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Grateful Dad said: ****, son. Not cool. Do you guys know each other? Don't know this guy at all. He seems quite sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who'sYourData? Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 410 Content Count: 19,525 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 24 Joined: 09/01/2006 Share Posted December 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, olafberserker said: This is true. But I do think they get credit for investing in the program and making it a priority. Something we haven't done since the Jim was fired up until the past few years. I'd like to have an OCS, but we play in a great stadium. If CAG wins some games with an exciting offense no less, then we are primed for big things The stadium came about because they were ticked off at Orlando for renovatijg the Citrus Bowl without their input. It was the absolute cheapest thing they could buy. I have been in nicer high school stadiums. And the IPF...wow. The only real investment was O'Leary. And that wasn't a huge investment and his returns were uneven to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDYZR Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 486 Content Count: 12,459 Reputation: 2,843 Days Won: 25 Joined: 12/14/2005 Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, USFBULL_08 said: Huh? We are 15 years late on the IPF...30 years on the OCS...were prepared for one guy, but nothing else and paid a guy who isnt qualified. What makes him not qualified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted December 5, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,348 Reputation: 1,288 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted December 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, tau.reanb said: Don't know this guy at all. He seems quite sensitive. Keyboards should come with breathalyzers. Would have saved me a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBULL_08 Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 48 Content Count: 2,343 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2009 Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, BDYZR said: What makes him not qualified? What makes him qualified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafberserker Posted December 5, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 5 Content Count: 3,354 Reputation: 941 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/20/2007 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, USFBULL_08 said: What makes him qualified? nice deflection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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