Popular Post Dave_Glaser Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 360 Content Count: 4,183 Reputation: 2,576 Days Won: 56 Joined: 02/01/2005 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) What brought down our football program was that the early success led our leadership to believe it was easy and they didn’t need to invest in the program because they were getting good results on a shoestring. Yes, with thanks to Jim. They had a misguided picture of what kind of resources it took and it has backfired in a huge way. Edited November 11, 2022 by Dave_Glaser 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Dave_Glaser said: What brought down our football program was that the early success led our leadership to believe it was easy and they didn’t need to invest in the program because they were getting good results on a shoestring. Yes, with thanks to Jim. They had a misguided picture of what it took and it has backfired in a huge way. And, just because Brad will expect this, a donor base that for the most part didn't see that need to invest either for probably the same reasons .... things came too easy, too quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchem1995 Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 51 Content Count: 3,357 Reputation: 1,101 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/02/2014 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: What brought down our football program was that the early success led our leadership to believe it was easy and they didn’t need to invest in the program because they were getting good results on a shoestring. Yes, with thanks to Jim. They had a misguided picture of what kind of resources it took and it has backfired in a huge way. Dave this is the second pin post of the year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Matrix Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 604 Content Count: 16,501 Reputation: 2,951 Days Won: 43 Joined: 01/04/2003 Share Posted November 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Dave_Glaser said: What brought down our football program was that the early success led our leadership to believe it was easy and they didn’t need to invest in the program because they were getting good results on a shoestring. Yes, with thanks to Jim. They had a misguided picture of what kind of resources it took and it has backfired in a huge way. Yes I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted November 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Brad said: I looked into my evidence folder, here is what @FazaUSF was referring to. This came from the investigation notes and was published in the Tampa paper. Where' there's smoke, conceal it! Unnerving. Mr. Besterfield might have been a little suspicious of the situation, may have known a little more...we'll never know. Besterfield was a good dude. Had him for my intro to engineering class freshman year. Always will remember him telling us to look to our left, then to our right and recognize that if we made it through, those 2 people probably wouldn't. He was in El Paso for the Sun Bowl, would have to assume he was a big supporter of the program. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Bull Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 148 Content Count: 5,900 Reputation: 628 Days Won: 5 Joined: 09/02/2007 Share Posted November 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Dave_Glaser said: What brought down our football program was that the early success led our leadership to believe it was easy and they didn’t need to invest in the program because they were getting good results on a shoestring. Yes, with thanks to Jim. They had a misguided picture of what kind of resources it took and it has backfired in a huge way. I agree with this, but there was more going on behind the scenes as it related to CJL IMO. Like they knew what was needed, but someone wanted Leavitt out for a while. I always harp on the salary pool for assistants, but it's amazing that after Leavitt, they found nearly double the money... almost like someone was trying to handcuff him, force a couple of losing seasons so they could fire him. He just kept winning though, so another avenue had to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Style Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Member Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 21,140 Reputation: 4,642 Days Won: 39 Joined: 09/14/2007 Share Posted November 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Orlando Bull said: I agree with this, but there was more going on behind the scenes as it related to CJL IMO. Like they knew what was needed, but someone wanted Leavitt out for a while. I always harp on the salary pool for assistants, but it's amazing that after Leavitt, they found nearly double the money... almost like someone was trying to handcuff him, force a couple of losing seasons so they could fire him. He just kept winning though, so another avenue had to be found. Interesting conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Admin Topic Count: 13,332 Content Count: 97,087 Reputation: 10,858 Days Won: 469 Joined: 05/19/2000 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I think it went far more simply: Leavitt clobbered McMurphy for a lot, including the false reporting (he was fired) Murphy (at Fanhouse) utilized players like Erskin, **********, and another that wanted to clobber Leavitt Erskin exploited Miller (he was mostly a hapless, troubled fool in the whole thing) to, with McMurphy, clobber Leavitt Genshaft, afraid of where McMurphy could take it with Miller (docs and jocks) especially if Leavitt survived, clobbered Leavitt. Fans, donors, etc. then clobbered the program year after year... UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple B Posted November 11, 2022 Group: Moderator Topic Count: 1,615 Content Count: 74,736 Reputation: 10,960 Days Won: 425 Joined: 11/25/2005 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Brad said: Genshaft, afraid of where McMurphy could take it with Miller (docs and jocks) especially if Leavitt survived, clobbered Leavitt. Okay, although I don’t think you explained that when I asked, I do kind of get that as opposed to a power struggle, which is what I thought it referred to. I’m still thinking that “underachieving” was in the mix with her (like Stan) but I get that theory now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinRicky Posted November 11, 2022 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 583 Content Count: 22,723 Reputation: 5,862 Days Won: 109 Joined: 09/13/2007 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Brad said: I think it went far more simply: Leavitt clobbered McMurphy for a lot, including the false reporting (he was fired) Murphy (at Fanhouse) utilized players like Erskin, **********, and another that wanted to clobber Leavitt Erskin exploited Miller (he was mostly a hapless, troubled fool in the whole thing) to, with McMurphy, clobber Leavitt Genshaft, afraid of where McMurphy could take it with Miller (docs and jocks) especially if Leavitt survived, clobbered Leavitt. Fans, donors, etc. then clobbered the program year after year... UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF UCF clobbered USF Somewhere you have to insert Nov 12th, 2009. The day the music died for CJL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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