CFN - AAC Predictions

[Outlaw]

2 hours ago, Jim Johnson said:

It's barely his second recruiting class, in actuality.

• 2020 - The transition year where nearly all of the recruits were initially recruited by Strong and his staff.  Only a couple of recruits followed Scott from Clemson.  Plus when they arrived, practices were severely limited all season... with people having to be quarantined for 10 days if they were just near someone who tested positive.
• 2021 - COVID restrictions meant: no visits to high schools. no recruit visits to colleges.  Now while every coach had the same issues, new coaches who had not been recruiting the state previously did not have a lot of personal experience on which to base decisions.  Video tapes and Zoom calls.  It's not like Scott saw these kids as juniors, because he was in South Carolina.  So of course there weren't many that could make an immediate impact.
• 2022 - This is the first class that had on-site visits in the fall (for part of the high school season) and official visits to colleges.  This is the FIRST "traditional" recruiting class for Scott.

You are trying to compare these past three seasons to any "normal" three seasons (see Holtz, Taggart, & Strong).  But the reality is these were different, and as such I am choosing to measure them differently... and give Scott a lot of leeway. 

The reality he has been the coach for two seasons and is in his third season next year. Do you not want to count any seasons as his first year until then he maybe gets a winning season?

His record is 3-18 with 1 FBS win.  He is the youngest coach we have ever had and  he is struggling desperately at multiple things.  Can he improve  maybe? Hopefully he learns to be a better coach and turn it around? If you ask him how many years he was a head coach what do you think he will say? I promise you he won't say only one year because of covid. Everyone is the world had to deal with covid and if he had a decent first season no one would be saying his first season didn't count. Winners don't make excuses and use it to push beyond their failures. Winners rise to the occasion and step up. CJS needs to show us the fans and life of this program he deserves to be here. He got extended  and will be here for five more years. All we can hope he turns it around that is it. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Outlaw

[BullyPulpit]

14 hours ago, Outlaw said:

The reality he has been the coach for two seasons and is in his third season next year. Do you not want to count any seasons as his first year until then he maybe gets a winning season?

His record is 3-18 with 1 FBS win.  He is the youngest coach we have ever had and  he is struggling desperately at multiple things.  Can he improve  maybe? Hopefully he learns to be a better coach and turn it around? If you ask him how many years he was a head coach what do you think he will say? I promise you he won't say only one year because of covid. Everyone is the world had to deal with covid and if he had a decent first season no one would be saying his first season didn't count. Winners don't make excuses and use it to push beyond their failures. Winners rise to the occasion and step up. CJS needs to show us the fans and life of this program he deserves to be here. He got extended  and will be here for five more years. All we can hope he turns it around that is it. 

Support and positivity from the fanbase certainly goes a long way in equipping a head coach with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the team when they are winning and things are going well. True fandom requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the HC for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 

[puc86]

18 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said:

Support and positivity from the fanbase certainly goes a long way in equipping a head coach with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the team when they are winning and things are going well. True fandom requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the HC for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 

Support and positivity from the citizens certainly goes a long way in equipping a President with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the government when they are winning and things are going well. True citizenship requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the President for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 
 

Support and positivity from members certainly goes a long way in equipping a new owner with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the platform when they are winning and things are going well. True Tweeting requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the owner for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 
 

This isn’t how life works and in any other topic no one would seriously consider that supporting what you think is wrong is the virtuous thing to do, simply because someone that is an objective failure is going to continue to remain in power. Maybe we should try some thick to go with that thin.

[USFRaider]

Scott is going into his 3rd year, case closed.  If you don't believe that, you are just making excuses for him.

Year 3, the expectations should be 6-6 and a bowl game.  The COVID and Strong excuses don't apply anymore beginning in 2022.

[Friscobull]

1 hour ago, BullyPulpit said:

 so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 

What positive can we embrace about his first 2 seasons?  A win over Temple? A victory over The Citadel or beating FAMU.   I am tired of ******** on the guy but to embrace the positive, c’mon man.

[BullyPulpit]

21 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

What positive can we embrace about his first 2 seasons?  A win over Temple? A victory over The Citadel or beating FAMU.   I am tired of ******** on the guy but to embrace the positive, c’mon man.

How about the forward momentum on the facilities? Better engagement with the fanbase? Seemingly doing well in the transfer portal? Bringing former players back into the mix to create some continuity and pride? 

[BullyPulpit]

1 hour ago, puc86 said:

Support and positivity from the citizens certainly goes a long way in equipping a President with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the government when they are winning and things are going well. True citizenship requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the President for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 
 

Support and positivity from members certainly goes a long way in equipping a new owner with what he needs to succeed. It is easy to support the platform when they are winning and things are going well. True Tweeting requires supporting them through thick and thin. You have already acknowledged that he is going to be the owner for the foreseeable future, so why not embrace the positive for the time being? 
 

This isn’t how life works and in any other topic no one would seriously consider that supporting what you think is wrong is the virtuous thing to do, simply because someone that is an objective failure is going to continue to remain in power. Maybe we should try some thick to go with that thin.

So you have closed the case and determined that CJS is the wrong coach for the job and needs to be fired? There is a stark difference between the success of our nation and the success of a football coach in our lives. Likewise, I don't think people feel the same allegiance towards Twitter that they do to their University. Your attempt at analogizing my statement to other areas, while admirable, fails.   

[puc86]

15 minutes ago, BullyPulpit said:

So you have closed the case and determined that CJS is the wrong coach for the job and needs to be fired? There is a stark difference between the success of our nation and the success of a football coach in our lives. Likewise, I don't think people feel the same allegiance towards Twitter that they do to their University. Your attempt at analogizing my statement to other areas, while admirable, fails.   

Compare it to anything, name any other sphere where you think blind faith without any tangible results is warranted for years on end. I’ll give maybe one, religion but outside of that people have some sort of expectations to go with their faith. Yes CJS has demonstrated by his recruiting, his hirings, his in game decisions, his leadership (he even said he had no idea how to manage), his plan for success and pretty much anything that you would look for a bright spot in a coaching journey that he is the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time. No matter how much I try to support a goldfish it isn’t going to climb a tree and time isn’t going to help with that either. Deep down the CJS enthusiasts are the ones that have the least faith in him as he says that he should be expected to compete this season but since they know he won’t they are already coming up with the reason it takes an entire college lifetime before he can even get to .500 one time.

Edited April 26, 2022 by puc86

[BullyPulpit]

2 minutes ago, puc86 said:

Compare it to anything, name any other sphere where you think blind faith without any tangible results is warranted for years on end. I’ll give maybe one, religion but outside of that people have some sort of expectations to go with their faith. Yes CJS has demonstrated by his recruiting, his hirings, his in game decisions, his leadership (he even said he had no idea how to manage), his plan for success and pretty much anything that you would look for a bright spot in a coaching journey that he is the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time. No matter how much I try to support a goldfish it isn’t going to climb a tree and time isn’t going to help with that either. Deep down the CJS enthusiasts are the ones that have the least faith in him as he says that he should be expected to compete this season but since they know he won’t they are already coming up with the reason it takes an entire college lifetime before he can even get to .500 one time.

Acknowledging the challenges that he and the program have faced since he took over and looking for positives rather than harping on negatives is not blind faith. You are not arguing the same points that I am. 

[puc86]

1 minute ago, BullyPulpit said:

Acknowledging the challenges that he and the program have faced since he took over and looking for positives rather than harping on negatives is not blind faith. You are not arguing the same points that I am. 

If we were making a binary plus/minus tally board he would be on the minus side with whatever you believe is holding him back more than any other coach we have had or any other coach that is currently coaching. He isn’t uniquely challenged and the only reason anyone pretends that he is has more to do with his results and how he handled the challenges than it does with the actual challenges themselves, almost as if he is the challenge.