Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[UCF_rustbucket]

15 hours ago, Jim Johnson said:

Yes. Miami does not have much of a fanbase outside of South(ern) Florida... USF would allow the ACC to get viewers in the Central Middle Florida that UM does not attract.  (FSU currently covers those markets for the ACC).

I don't think the question was about actual viewers but rather what do the media and distribution partners count as the teams respective markets for carriage fees of a conference network on cable customers. It's why the B1G took Maryland and Rutgers. Not because those two teams have expansive fan bases they were hoping to draw in, but rather the fact that they are in the DC and NYC markets respectively means the B1G could add 2 new large markets and the carriage fees for all those customers. Regardless how many actually watch or care about B1G sports.

If ESPN and their cable partners count FL as one whole marker, then USF won't add anything new. But if the Miami and Tampa markets and customers are counted separately, then yes. I'm leaning towards the latter but don't know for sure.

[Mike Stuben]

4 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

I don't think the question was about actual viewers but rather what do the media and distribution partners count as the teams respective markets for carriage fees of a conference network on cable customers. It's why the B1G took Maryland and Rutgers. Not because those two teams have expansive fan bases they were hoping to draw in, but rather the fact that they are in the DC and NYC markets respectively means the B1G could add 2 new large markets and the carriage fees for all those customers. Regardless how many actually watch or care about B1G sports.

If ESPN and their cable partners count FL as one whole marker, then USF won't add anything new. But if the Miami and Tampa markets and customers are counted separately, then yes. I'm leaning towards the latter but don't know for sure.

Not sure the ACC Network is set up that way, with varying carriage fees. (not saying either way)

 

[Gismo]

23 minutes ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

I don't think the question was about actual viewers but rather what do the media and distribution partners count as the teams respective markets for carriage fees of a conference network on cable customers. It's why the B1G took Maryland and Rutgers. Not because those two teams have expansive fan bases they were hoping to draw in, but rather the fact that they are in the DC and NYC markets respectively means the B1G could add 2 new large markets and the carriage fees for all those customers. Regardless how many actually watch or care about B1G sports.

If ESPN and their cable partners count FL as one whole marker, then USF won't add anything new. But if the Miami and Tampa markets and customers are counted separately, then yes. I'm leaning towards the latter but don't know for sure.

With the rise of streaming and decline of cable, this isn’t as straight forward as it was in the past. 
 

 

[Bull Matrix]

1 hour ago, Gismo said:

With the rise of streaming and decline of cable, this isn’t as straight forward as it was in the past. 
 

 

Plus Florida recruiting still matters. 

[UCF_rustbucket]

2 hours ago, Gismo said:

With the rise of streaming and decline of cable, this isn’t as straight forward as it was in the past. 
 

 

For sure. Some of the legacy carriage fees *could* still apply but for how long? As people cut cable and move to streaming, we start to measure the actual interest vs trying to exploit a loophole. Maryland and Rutgers very lucky they got into the P2 when they did.

[Bear]

3 hours ago, UCF_rustbucket said:

I don't think the question was about actual viewers but rather what do the media and distribution partners count as the teams respective markets for carriage fees of a conference network on cable customers. It's why the B1G took Maryland and Rutgers. Not because those two teams have expansive fan bases they were hoping to draw in, but rather the fact that they are in the DC and NYC markets respectively means the B1G could add 2 new large markets and the carriage fees for all those customers. Regardless how many actually watch or care about B1G sports.

If ESPN and their cable partners count FL as one whole marker, then USF won't add anything new. But if the Miami and Tampa markets and customers are counted separately, then yes. I'm leaning towards the latter but don't know for sure.

I believe you are correct. The Tampa market was somewhat in FSU's territory. 

If FSU were to leave; the ACC loses all of Central/North Florida (which Miami did NOT carry). 

USF absolutely can fill that area (especially becausue the B12 is encroaching with central).

[Cat941]

Better than Cincy and SMU (who have both beat us into the P4).  

Edited March 30 by Cat941

[slick1ru2]

Decade 2 of fantasizing about getting an ACC invite is alive and well. 

[Cat941]

On 11/19/2012 at 1:29 PM, Bulls1181 said:

RT @JFowlerCBS: ACC in talks with UConn, Louisville, USF and Cincinnati about 14th team to replace Maryland, source told @CBSSports.

Imagine if they had just taken all 4 of us back in 2012.

[BULLSHTR]

2 hours ago, Cat941 said:

Better than Cincy and SMU (who have both beat us into the P4).  

Cinci has had more success in both football and basketball, has a big market too, their own OCS. SMU bought their way in.

Had USF won the last 6 games against ucf, then we'd be in already. Just gotta get the stink of losing off of us, before the ACC members will accept us.

Edited March 30 by BULLSHTR
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