Conference realignment "Rumors" "tweets" "etc"

[BullyPulpit]

2 hours ago, CousinRicky said:

All I can say is that the guy is working the phone constantly.  Doesn't mean we get in because, like the break up of the BE, this is really out of any one person's hands. If it doesn't work out it won't be for lack of trying.

Does anyone know the type of relationship those at USF have/had with Oliver Luck? The Big 12 hired him as a consultant to assist with exploring expansion. 

[puc86]

9 hours ago, Triple B said:

Except expansion wasn’t based strictly on football so using P5 invites to try and validate the conferences football quality doesn’t hold water. USF‘s AAC has been a better football conference than USF’s CUSA and it’s not even close. 

Recent winning isn’t a measure of a team or leagues value. The Big 10 can finish with zero top 25 teams this year and it’s still the better place to be, Nebraska has been garbage for a while they are still better than anyone in our conference, PSU had a bad season last year they still haven’t dropped behind anyone and couple of teams being ranked 25 doesn’t somehow make this conference better and if there were better components they would be gone.

[puc86]

10 hours ago, Bull Nut said:

Remove Texas and Oklahoma and the AAC has the same number of top 25 teams in 2020-2021 season as the remaining B12 teams. 

2019-2020 AAC-3 vs B12 2.0-2

I could keep going but it's getting late

Recent wins has nothing to do with value, the programs left in the B12 are more valuable than the AAC and the teams they can bring in including AAC teams is more valuable than what would be made starting with the AAC as a base for no apparent reason.

[puc86]

For anyone thinking sport journalism is a thing and there is actually informed well vetted takes I present Bishop Sycamore as my retort. If ESPN can’t even be bothered to learn a team they are paying to broadcast isn’t an actual HS how much effort do you think any local yokel is actually putting into their takes? The difference between a typical internet poster and a sports journalist isn’t connections and legitimacy it’s that the internet poster cannot afford the pay cut necessary to be a professional sports reporter.

[michibull]

I think the bottom line is that if USF is left out of B12 expansion, and UCF, Cincy, BYU, etc. get in, that will be the death of USF football. We have seen what happened with attendance and fan interest when we dropped from the BE to AAC, a drop again would all but eliminate everyone but the die-hards. At that point, drop football and gear up basketball. 

[El_Toro_86]

27 minutes ago, michibull said:

I think the bottom line is that if USF is left out of B12 expansion, and UCF, Cincy, BYU, etc. get in, that will be the death of USF football. We have seen what happened with attendance and fan interest when we dropped from the BE to AAC, a drop again would all but eliminate everyone but the die-hards. At that point, drop football and gear up basketball. 

Yep.  It would be so USF to build the IPF and football center only to not have a seat when the music stops.

[Triple B]

4 hours ago, puc86 said:

Recent winning isn’t a measure of a team or leagues value. The Big 10 can finish with zero top 25 teams this year and it’s still the better place to be, Nebraska has been garbage for a while they are still better than anyone in our conference, PSU had a bad season last year they still haven’t dropped behind anyone and couple of teams being ranked 25 doesn’t somehow make this conference better and if there were better components they would be gone.

You said that the CUSA conference we were in for 2 years was a better one than the AAC we're in now. They were/are both midmajors so rational thinking would be that better should mean football results. The AAC has played better football during our time here in comparison and it's not even close.

[puc86]

5 minutes ago, Triple B said:

You said that the CUSA conference we were in for 2 years was a better one than the AAC we're in now. They were/are both midmajors so rational thinking would be that better should mean football results. The AAC has played better football during our time here in comparison and it's not even close.

I do not know how to be more clear having Louisville and TCU as well as the majority of the best components of the AAC is having a better conference as evidenced by the fact that in having the ability to pick from all of the teams they chose them and not what’s here. WVU and Louisville were world beaters in the past and haven’t been able to beat their own meat in their respective conferences but if they were in the AAC they would be dominating and we would each be bringing in several more million dollars a year. The value of a team and a conference has nothing to do with most recent wins and the only people that think otherwise are people easily swayed by the talking points of people that have no idea on how to value teams and conferences.

[Mission9]

4 hours ago, puc86 said:

For anyone thinking sport journalism is a thing and there is actually informed well vetted takes I present Bishop Sycamore as my retort. If ESPN can’t even be bothered to learn a team they are paying to broadcast isn’t an actual HS how much effort do you think any local yokel is actually putting into their takes? The difference between a typical internet poster and a sports journalist isn’t connections and legitimacy it’s that the internet poster cannot afford the pay cut necessary to be a professional sports reporter.

Your point makes me think that if a virtual school with a bad football team can con ESECPN into broadcasting one of their games, maybe someone at USF can trick ESECPN into being sure that USF gets into one of the sacred Pee (4 or 5?or 6?) conferences. We, the downtrodden fans, can hope. 

[puc86]

14 minutes ago, Mission9 said:

Your point makes me think that if a virtual school with a bad football team can con ESECPN into broadcasting one of their games, maybe someone at USF can trick ESECPN into being sure that USF gets into one of the sacred Pee (4 or 5?or 6?) conferences. We, the downtrodden fans, can hope. 

If we pay the right person to say it or tweet it we would be on the front page of every newspaper by morning and be being discussed on every sports talk show in America. If there is one area where you can have the tail wag the dog it’s in sports “news” where people read things online, use them as sources and then people online get to use those stories to confirm their ideas it’s a fun circle jerk of nothingness