puc86 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,149 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, NewEnglandBull said: With the title of this thread I thought the topic might be about allowing @puc86 to post his opinions... I don’t like to get wrapped up in titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullgrad84 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 166 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, puc86 said: They all think they are different and can be the one to successfully run what made them successful elsewhere, it’s our job to vet them and find the ones not trying to shove their square pegs into our round holes. If anyone says the words pro or that their plans revolve around having a top offensive line they should be immediately disqualified and should they make it through that step there should be a clause in their contract that ever saying those thing during their tenure here will result in them being termed immediately with cause. Why can’t we have a top oline ? If we know what we want in recruiting why can’t we go out and have a top oline in our conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullgrad84 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 166 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, puc86 said: They all think they are different and can be the one to successfully run what made them successful elsewhere, it’s our job to vet them and find the ones not trying to shove their square pegs into our round holes. If anyone says the words pro or that their plans revolve around having a top offensive line they should be immediately disqualified and should they make it through that step there should be a clause in their contract that ever saying those thing during their tenure here will result in them being termed immediately with cause. And Kerwin Bell’s Offense is has a lot of spread in it. His Qbs at Valdosta state in 2018 ran for 18 touchdowns and over 1,000 ? How is that not some spread ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puc86 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 147 Content Count: 19,266 Reputation: 6,149 Days Won: 255 Joined: 10/13/2002 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Bullgrad84 said: Why can’t we have a top oline ? If we know what we want in recruiting why can’t we go out and have a top oline in our conference? Because top oline players do not come here but if someone actually pull it off that would be amazing. If part of their plan hinges on this requirement it’s probably a recipe for failure and we would be better served with a plan that’s not based on miracles. Everyone wants a great line unfortunately getting that line appears to be more difficult than simply wanting those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grateful Dad Posted October 5, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 109 Content Count: 5,383 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 10 Joined: 09/18/2005 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'm not very knowledgeable about this, but it seems that finding talented Olinemen is harder than finding talented skill player positions. If that is true, then getting them to USF any time soon is a dream. Elite programs snap them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBull Posted October 5, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber III Topic Count: 207 Content Count: 3,453 Reputation: 1,424 Days Won: 19 Joined: 09/09/2007 Share Posted October 5, 2020 "We definitely made the wrong decision!" I know my reading comprehension leaves something to be desired and, after reading a lot of these posts, I don't really understand what this thread is about. However, I agree and think the caption could apply to just about anything at USF (and maybe elsewhere) over the last 50+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullgrad84 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 166 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Roaming Bull said: pro style always works though Bells offense is pro style/spread. No different than lane kiffin at fau or bama or LSU or any of the top offenses. Just got to be able to recruit your guys that fit what you do. Just because your qb can’t run doesn’t mean your not spread. Kerwin’s QBs at Valdosta st ran for 18 tds and over 1000 yards. Pro style under center QBs don’t do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBulls Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 13 Content Count: 1,273 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2011 Share Posted October 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bullgrad84 said: Bells offense is pro style/spread. No different than lane kiffin at fau or bama or LSU or any of the top offenses. Just got to be able to recruit your guys that fit what you do. Just because your qb can’t run doesn’t mean your not spread. Kerwin’s QBs at Valdosta st ran for 18 tds and over 1000 yards. Pro style under center QBs don’t do that. In hindsight it seems like Kerwin just had better athletes at Valdosta compared to the other teams he played... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm101 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: TBP Subscriber Topic Count: 173 Content Count: 6,993 Reputation: 2,251 Days Won: 12 Joined: 06/11/2010 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Crunchy is the wrong decision. Always go smooth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullgrad84 Posted October 5, 2020 Group: Member Topic Count: 3 Content Count: 166 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/10/2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, DJBulls said: In hindsight it seems like Kerwin just had better athletes at Valdosta compared to the other teams he played... He recruited them. No difference than saban or ucf having better players than who they have played. Obviously cjs had better players than who he played at Clemson and he wasn’t even the play caller. Obviously Willie taggart had better players here at USF than who he played. It’s called recruiting. You could have brought anyone in for 6 months to run the offense last year with our talent and they wouldn’t be good. Not his fault ccs didn’t recruit well enough. Bell has recruited every where he’s been. Why he’s won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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