Does Coastal Carolina have a better athletic program then USF?

[NewEnglandBull]

41 minutes ago, Friscobull said:

It is what we do, how long have you been on this board?  yes he has no talent and not going to make the Puc argument that the team was similar to last year, however it does hold merit and this team is worse.   In his efforts to bring in a QB as a stop gap, I give him an F,   Cade is non existent, Noah is a one trick pony it appears, too early on the freshman however Marsh may have a great arm but not mobile enough to play here, legacy is MIA.  The offense earns a C- overall and his clock management, play calling near the end of the game was an embarrassment.  He was a co-coordinator with no play calling experience and it shows.  I have really not seen anyone improve with the exception of Ford, because he at least had the sense to let him on the field.  We have legit excuses, covid, small d line, terrible o line etc...but if you look at the way we started, you are the eternal optimist or dumb as **** if you are satisfied with the first 5 games.  I still think he may be alright, but only blind hope makes me think that because I don’t have the stomach to think otherwise.

Sorry man, not buying this early and with these players...

[NewEnglandBull]

24 minutes ago, WhoRUSF said:

Will you ever admit that part of it is firing the best coach we ever had? Do you agree that it set USF back to an unrecoverable state? Do you really think Leavitt would let it fall this far? 

I know we've had this conversations many times but I have to understand your take on these specific questions. 

I am almost halfway there brother...but I’ll need more time...

[Triple B]

2 hours ago, brybull1970 said:

Harlan for me was a carpetbagger as was Strong.

I think Strong was definitely just here to move back to the P5. Harlan, though, I think was more inclined to try and build something here ..... but neither had any idea what they were in for until they got here ..... and I'm not really sure how someone could run something into the ground that was really never off the ground on its own accord anyway.

[Triple B]

1 hour ago, WhoRUSF said:

Will you ever admit that part of it is firing the best coach we ever had? Do you agree that it set USF back to an unrecoverable state?

First, if the the firing of any coach, even with what CJL did here, renders a football program unrecoverable, that program was built on a foundation of quicksand to begin with.

Having said that, the program was partially recovered with Willie so it's not like it's an insurmountable mountain to climb ...

[Triple B]

16 minutes ago, brybull1970 said:

Its a fair point. Woolard did alot of damage before he left. 

Meh, the real damage was done by Pitt/Syracuse/ESPN ...

[NewEnglandBull]

2 minutes ago, Triple B said:

Meh, the real damage was done by Pitt and Syracuse ...

This...I hope those bastards live in mediocrity forever. 

[Triple B]

1 minute ago, brybull1970 said:

That's code for ESPN, right?

LOL ... I went back and edited before seeing that.

[CousinRicky]

16 hours ago, Triple B said:

I think Strong was definitely just here to move back to the P5. Harlan, though, I think was more inclined to try and build something here ..... but neither had any idea what they were in for until they got here ..... and I'm not really sure how someone could run something into the ground that was really never off the ground on its own accord anyway.

Disagree about Harlan. But then, he is one of the few people at USF I've actually hated.  He never seemed to want to be here.

[Triple B]

4 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Disagree about Harlan.

Somehow I figured you would ....

[NewEnglandBull]

4 minutes ago, CousinRicky said:

Disagree about Harlan. But then, he is one of the few people at USF I've actually hated.  He never seemed to want to be here.

Is he still an Uber driver somewhere in Utah?